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Rikabu
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I'm thinking Bleach and Naruto are becoming the next DBZ and Pokemon, as far as popularity is concerned.
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ryusaki
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We all know the reason why these sales are so different.
Naruto -Toonami Bleach - [Adult Swim] |
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Coral Skipper
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That's very true. Continuing on the baseball analogy that the article had, Naruto plays for Boston while Bleach plays for St. Louis. Both have dedicated fanbases, but Toonami just reaches more people. |
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ryusaki
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Which Yeah. Naruto IMO belongs on Toonami. Bleach on [as]. Just for editing reasons. Toonami has let up alot on how much they'll show. Naruito is Toonami's staple series. Bleach. Should stay on Adult Swim,and for me I just don't whanna see it edited. and I like watching it on [as] sense I watch japanese version. (Werid how i won't judge the dub huh?
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Maybe if [as] moved Bleach to the 11pm Saterday slot and then..it might get higher ratings.. but I don't know. |
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Kouji
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Naruto is like the next DBZ and Bleach is more like the next Yu Yu Hakusho. Both DBZ and Naruto are insanely popular mainstream titles that got a lot of exposure on Toonami and was/is even a success with non-anime fans. Yu Yu Hakusho was a big hit on Adult Swim but it seems to have been watched mainly by newbie anime fans who might've gotten introduced to anime through "gateway" series like DBZ and are just starting out at expanding their interest and looking for something new to watch. At least it seemed like every time I tried to get a DBZ fan who was also a non-anime fan to watch Yu Yu Hakusho, they never showed any interest in it but there were lots of newbie anime fans who liked the series. I see Bleach doing the same in that lots of newbie anime fans will like it but the non-fans won't like it as much as Naruto. I also think Naruto is more popular than Bleach because Naruto's main characters are younger which makes it easier for the series' preteen target age group to relate to the characters more.
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Spotlesseden
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well Albert Pujols is not bad. probably the best baseball player rightnow.
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ChichiriMuyo
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I find it funny that anyone would call Naruto a once in a life time deal when they are only comparing it to one of its contemporaries. Can anyone doubt the thought that DBZ would have done the exact same thing if anime had gone mainstream a few yaers earlier? There'll be a book that beats Naruto in a few years, no doubt.
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Malintex Terek
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I agree in full, though I doubt we'll be having another massive success anytime soon exceeding that of Naruto for a shounen series; while manga has become a much more popular form of entertainment as of late, I largely agree with Al Kahn's view that it'll never become a "big deal" in the sense of being comparable to traditional children's literature or television. While Naruto is huge as a manga, garbage novels like Christopher Paolini's Eragon triology easily outsell it. We're still a long way from seeing the Naruto manga as an "important part of Western popular culture". |
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jgreen
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Well, that's certainly a flawed analogy. Speaking as a St. Louis Cardinals fan (who is positively giddy from them winning the World Series this year, thanks for asking!  ), while the Boston metro area has about 50% more people than St. Louis (4.4 million vs. 2.8 million), the Cardinals following is huge throughout the entire Midwest.....they were the farthest west team until the Dodgers and Giants moved out west, and their radio broadcasts on the mighty KMOX could reach clear to NYC on a clear night. You ask anyone in Arkansas, Tennessee, and Kentucky, and odds are they're a Cards fan. Plus, the Cardinals have been around longer (1882 vs. 1901), have more World Series titles (10 vs. 6), more league championship titles (27 vs. 17), more people in the baseball hall of fame (40 vs. 30). Really a more appropriate comparison would be that Naruto is the Yankees....and I say that even though I hate the Yankees.
Bleach seems to me to be the kind of series that will continue to have a slow build....I know a LOT of people who haven't seen it because they didn't even realize that [as] had started a new show. I doubt it will ever read Naruto levels, but I doubt that the success it's had so far is indicative of how successful it's going to be. It's only going to get bigger. |
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AiddonValentine
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Bleach catching up to Naruto is of course going to be hard in manga sales, mostly because AS hits fewer people than Toonami. Toonami is for kids and will hit even non-anime fans, so its going to spread quicker. I find it a bit unfair and sloppy when the blocks are on such different times and for different audiences. I say use a ratio instead of just the bare numbers. Plus Bleach was licensed far quicker than the Naruto anime, and Naruto's success is only really big here in America
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Strephon
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I think part of the difference is also due to the length of time between the initial release of the manga and the start of the TV series in the US. The article alludes to this in part (when Naruto started there were 7 manga volumes available, while there are 15 of Bleach), but there's also the fact that people have had more of a chance to discover Bleach before the TV series, so there may be people watching it who already own the manga and aren't going to buy them again. (Bleach has also benefitted from Naruto's success by being promoted in the US Shonen Jump, again giving more people a chance to discover it before the TV show.)
Against that, there are also people (like me) who buy Shonen Jump and don't bother with the collections, thus dragging Naruto's numbers down, so make of that what you will. |
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Coral Skipper
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As a fellow Cards fan we all know that in recent times the national media thinks of them as a small town team. The analogy is still accurate in that the Red Socks get much more exposure through ESPN and other national media. |
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GATSU
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As long as it makes more than 4Kids bastardization of One Piece, that's all that matters.
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animalia555
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Last edited by animalia555 on Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:52 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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SharinganEyes92
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Yeah, I also think that it's due to the fact that Bleach airs on AS while Naruto airs on Toonami. However, it is still far too early to tell if the success of the manga won't reach Naruto or not, as the article said. I still say to give it a month or two, and the sales'll be sky-rocketing.... hopefully.
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