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NEWS: Warner, Tobey Maguire Acquire Robotech Film Rights


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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:32 am Reply with quote
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Due to a copyright dispute that has Studio Nue and Big West, the creators and sponsor of Macross, facing against Harmony Gold's partner Tatsunoko Production, elements from Macross, the most popular of the three series, have not been used in recent and planned Robotech works onscreen.


I'm just wondering if Tatsunoko or Nue could sue WB or Maguire.
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ValkyrieZeroZeroOne



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:18 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
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Due to a copyright dispute that has Studio Nue and Big West, the creators and sponsor of Macross, facing against Harmony Gold's partner Tatsunoko Production, elements from Macross, the most popular of the three series, have not been used in recent and planned Robotech works onscreen.


I'm just wondering if Tatsunoko or Nue could sue WB or Maguire.


A company the size of WB will probably think nothing of paying Studio Nue/BigWest/whoever the hell owns Macross these days whatever it takes to secure the US rights to Macross for live-action production.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:43 am Reply with quote
So uh, is Tobey a closet anime fan? O_O

We hear all these things about anime rights getting sold to Hollywood, but none of them get any other news except Speed Racer. (Monster movie please.) So when is this movie coming out then, 3 years?
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Leon Soma



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:30 am Reply with quote
Ah geez, man. Whatever. I will not be supporting this in any shape or form whatsoever. Not even if it's good. Seriously, f*ck Tobey Maguire.
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zetsuie



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:23 am Reply with quote
Leon Soma wrote:
Ah geez, man. Whatever. I will not be supporting this in any shape or form whatsoever. Not even if it's good. Seriously, f*ck Tobey Maguire.
but Toby Maguire is spiderman
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Renaisance Otaku



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:59 am Reply with quote
ValkyrieZeroZeroOne wrote:
GATSU wrote:
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Due to a copyright dispute that has Studio Nue and Big West, the creators and sponsor of Macross, facing against Harmony Gold's partner Tatsunoko Production, elements from Macross, the most popular of the three series, have not been used in recent and planned Robotech works onscreen.


I'm just wondering if Tatsunoko or Nue could sue WB or Maguire.


A company the size of WB will probably think nothing of paying Studio Nue/BigWest/whoever the hell owns Macross these days whatever it takes to secure the US rights to Macross for live-action production.


Tatsunoko sides with HG. The problem is the Nue and Big West own the mecha designs. HG can only use the TV versions for toys (no one knows how the HG DYRL stuff happened). Tatsunoko only owns the story. Though it still goes on. Hence I'd expect to see either Legoiss (Alphas) or completely new designs. I doubt Nue/BW can stop them outside of the designs if Tatsunoko's onboard as HG has the right to distribute the US version of Macross (they feel they own Macross beyond that as well).

Personally, I'm not wild about the idea. Some things just work better in animation, and I can already see massive changes. It's more plausible than Eva, but has a lot of potential for cheese. Coupled with them making it off of the butchered version of the shows doesn't help either. Once again something that pretty much shouldn't even exist in this day and age (a massively re-edited anime) gets raised to new heights once again. Robotech is a product of the time when few respected foreign licenses. A shining example of just how messed up mainstream releases of anime in the 80s were. It's an example of what not to do, not something that should be glorified through sequels and remakes because of nostalgia. The novels are the best version since no editing is involved.

Still, I'd say that as long as it's as decent as Transformers (which was entertaining if somewhat simple in plot), but with a lot more characterization, it might be good. It just won't look anything like Macross. Macross is my second favorite show of all time, I'm not a fan of putting something never intended for live action into it [seriously, why animate it in the first place?], and it kind of pains me to once again see its Robotech mangling get the honor instead, so I really don't know what to think at the moment. Even if it were a Macross movie, I'd still be on the fence.

At least rename the fuel source. "First/early Civilization" is a little odd.


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redemption2



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As if the fact that he's Spiderman makes a difference.

I can see the previews now. Coming to theaters in 2012, Robotech: The Insert Creative Name That Hasn't Been Done Already Here. Starring Tobey McGuire. Kirsten Dunst as Lynn Minmay, and plenty of other people that you have no clue who they are. This time, we're screwing the world. Rated PG-13.
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ABetterTimeandPlace



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:38 am Reply with quote
Renaisance Otaku wrote:
ValkyrieZeroZeroOne wrote:
GATSU wrote:
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Due to a copyright dispute that has Studio Nue and Big West, the creators and sponsor of Macross, facing against Harmony Gold's partner Tatsunoko Production, elements from Macross, the most popular of the three series, have not been used in recent and planned Robotech works onscreen.


I'm just wondering if Tatsunoko or Nue could sue WB or Maguire.


A company the size of WB will probably think nothing of paying Studio Nue/BigWest/whoever the hell owns Macross these days whatever it takes to secure the US rights to Macross for live-action production.


Tatsunoko sides with HG. The problem is the Nue and Big West own the mecha designs. HG can only use the TV versions for toys (no one knows how the HG DYRL stuff happened). Tatsunoko only owns the story. Though it still goes on. Hence I'd expect to see either Legoiss (Alphas) or completely new designs. I doubt Nue/BW can stop them outside of the designs if Tatsunoko's onboard as HG has the right to distribute the US version of Macross (they feel they own Macross beyond that as well).


Tatsunoko doesn't even "own" the story, strictly speaking. The court cases ruled that the original concepts came from Studio Nue, before Tatsunoko got involved. That's why Tatsunoko can't turn around make a Macross story--with or without entirely new designs--and why only Studio Nue and Big West are making new Macross anime stories even now. Studio Nue and Big West can stop them if they borrow too much from the Macross story. Tatsunoko owns the original Macross animation footage, but that's different from having the right to make new Macross footage.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:03 pm Reply with quote
Thanks for the clear up. Even I get confused over who owns what.Still, given that this is a a US live version, and Tatsunoko and HG do have the rights to the overseas license and can use them as they please, they'll probably get away with it. I'm sure HG saw this as their best chance to market the most popular part of RT. Something they couldn't do with Shadow Chronicles outside of an old Hikaru.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:04 pm Reply with quote
This and Dragonball Z: tEh mOovie are proving the atheists right.
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redemption2



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:15 pm Reply with quote
mrsatan wrote:
This and Dragonball Z: tEh mOovie are proving the atheists right.


I don't even want to know what you mean by that one.
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ABetterTimeandPlace



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:19 pm Reply with quote
Renaisance Otaku wrote:
Thanks for the clear up. Even I get confused over who owns what.Still, given that this is a a US live version, and Tatsunoko and HG do have the rights to the overseas license and can use them as they please, they'll probably get away with it. I'm sure HG saw this as their best chance to market the most popular part of RT. Something they couldn't do with Shadow Chronicles outside of an old Hikaru.


Even in a live-action version, they would still have the same limitations as any animated version. Just like the Shadow Chronicles couldn't use the word "Macross" or "Zentraedi," couldn't resurrect the old Macross relationships, and couldn't use the Macross U.N. Spacy symbol (hence that odd U.N. Spacy/Mospeada mishmash), the live-action version has to follow the same rules. Either that, or Harmony Gold and Tatsunoko has to make a new deal with the Macross people.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:41 pm Reply with quote
Anyone else sick of the instant negative reaction EVERY live-action project gets?

Do those of you who immediately leap onto the forums to proclaim how upset and disappointed you are that something is being adapted into live-action ever get tired of being so negative and lazy in your cynicism?
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redemption2



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:50 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
Anyone else sick of the instant negative reaction EVERY live-action project gets?

Do those of you who immediately leap onto the forums to proclaim how upset and disappointed you are that something is being adapted into live-action ever get tired of being so negative and lazy in your cynicism?


Hey, I was looking forward to the Evangelion live action, until the whole thing tanked. I was never interested in Speed Racer to begin with, so I don't really care. I'm interested in the live action/CG Astroboy they're working on. However when it comes to the DBZ, Voltron, and Robotech/Macross movies, I'm wary, because when you look at it, the original didn't do very well on these shores, and though the Hollywood star treatment might help a bit, a good plant can't sprout from a bad seed.
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Jariten
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 2:35 pm Reply with quote
Zac wrote:
Anyone else sick of the instant negative reaction EVERY live-action project gets?


I certainly am. It isn't like they gave exclusive directing rights to Uwe Boll or something.

Personally, I think the project has potential. Maguire has done a relatively good job when it comes to selecting which projects he's involved in, and it's not like they won't be bringing on new staff, changing staff roles and making other adjustments during production (in fact, it would be a first if they didn't make any changes...). Acquiring the rights is simply the first step.
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