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Ctimene's Lover
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
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Location: Glendale, AZ
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| Nothing really knew hear. Japan has been cracking down anime piracy much more in the last few years. Heck, with the amount of dubs/fansubs/downloading I've watched, I know I may be caught someday. |
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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:47 pm |
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| Speaking of file-sharing, I'm suprised you haven't mentioned that recent ruling against Google, in which the ID of Youtube users are to be shared with Viacom. |
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FanFicGuru
Joined: 11 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:54 pm |
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| GATSU wrote: | | Speaking of file-sharing, I'm suprised you haven't mentioned that recent ruling against Google, in which the ID of Youtube users are to be shared with Viacom. |
There's no way that Google will comply with that order. Otherwise they'll be looking at a class action lawsuit so big it may very well destroy them. It'll be tied up in courts for quite some time I think. |
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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:56 pm |
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| Unless they can appeal it in their favor, they'll have to comply. |
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nhat
Joined: 21 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:36 pm |
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| Ctimene's Lover wrote: | | Nothing really knew hear. Japan has been cracking down anime piracy much more in the last few years. Heck, with the amount of dubs/fansubs/downloading I've watched, I know I may be caught someday. |
If you don't live in JP, I don't think any U.S/JP companies have the resources and logistics to go after pirates in other countries. |
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Xanas
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Joined: 27 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:17 pm |
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| GATSU wrote: | | Unless they can appeal it in their favor, they'll have to comply. |
I doubt that will be a problem, not every judge can be a complete idiot. |
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melonbread
Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:55 pm |
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| The Youtube (Google) ruling doesn't involve giving Viacom the person details of any of the people, just download statistics I think. Or at least that's how the BBC reported it. |
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poehitman
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:35 pm |
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| If Japan thinks the law against uploaders will stop filesharing, they are sadly mistaken. The uploaders will just send it to someone outside of Japan (outside of Japan's legal reach) and they will upload it to the networks for them. |
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Daimao Raki
Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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Location: Boro City, SC
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:29 pm |
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| poehitman wrote: | | If Japan thinks the law against uploaders will stop filesharing, they are sadly mistaken. The uploaders will just send it to someone outside of Japan (outside of Japan's legal reach) and they will upload it to the networks for them. |
Sad but true. The industry needs to jump on the online market and beat the fansubbers to the punch. |
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hikaru004
Joined: 15 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm |
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| melonbread wrote: | | The Youtube (Google) ruling doesn't involve giving Viacom the person details of any of the people, just download statistics I think. Or at least that's how the BBC reported it. |
The ruling orders YouTube to relinquish log-in names and IP addresses.
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You do hear about uploaders being afraid of jail time nowadays on certain sites so it's having some effect. |
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cally-chan
Joined: 05 Jul 2008
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Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:44 pm |
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LOL I guess that goes to show that American anime fans aren't the only ones that are too cheap to buy their favorite shows, it's worldwide!  |
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Daimao Raki
Joined: 03 Jul 2008
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Location: Boro City, SC
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:14 pm |
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| cally-chan wrote: | | LOL I guess that goes to show that American anime fans aren't the only ones that are too cheap to buy their favorite shows, it's worldwide! |
Cheapness knows no nationality or language barrier.
Although if Japan stamps out people uploading anime there, then how will people be able to get the new shows? Kinda kills the problem for the most part. |
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bglassbrook
Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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Location: Gaithersburg, MD
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:50 pm |
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| poehitman wrote: | | If Japan thinks the law against uploaders will stop filesharing, they are sadly mistaken. The uploaders will just send it to someone outside of Japan (outside of Japan's legal reach) and they will upload it to the networks for them. |
Sending the file to somebody else to upload .... kinda sounds like uploading to me. If this is an actual safe-harbor built into the law to let folks "share with friends" in a more conventional 1-on-1 manner then I wouldn't bother importing any Macs to test it, just assume a whole fleet would fit. |
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CCSYueh
Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: San Diego, CA
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:02 am |
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I know Viacom was trying, but haven't kept up. However Viacon isn't dealing with anime so ANN wouldn't mention it. I would think something like YouTube would just have to turn over the names, etc of the people posting the stuff, not just watching it. If they policed their stupid site better themselves this wouldn't have happened. It has to be against YouTube rules to post that stuff so if YouTube wanted to, they could ban people posting illegal content until the message got out not to do it & they wouldn't be in that position. Yes, these people posting this stuff have to know it's wrong, but YouTube is letting them get away with it, so these people sort of feel protected it seems.
I have never seen the point of posting an episode of some show YOU didn't have squat to do with making on a place called YouTube(Where's the "You"? in a Naruto or Bleach ep?)
Viacom-I'm all for protecting the rights of the creative types so yeah, you have no right beyond your personal viewing pleasures for any movie or show. |
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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:16 am |
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| Yueh: Part of the problem is that anime fans might be using some of their songs and/or videos as AMVs, so they could be sued, too. Plus, if given the power, they could theoretically sue you, just for watching info-tainment clips from The Daily Show. |
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