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walw6pK4Alo
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Not very surprising, as a lot of popular titles like Code Geass R2, Macross, Air, Gunbuster/Diebuster were available. Also, the more nerdy you are, the more likely you are to jump to newer, more complex, and more expensive forms of electronics and entertainment.
Too bad BD's over here for anime will be even more expensive since it's BD. Companies have a hard enough time convincing people to buy normal DVDs, much less spend an extra $10-20 for HD. Last edited by walw6pK4Alo on Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:49 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Dargonxtc
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Well no surprise really. As Black Friday has come and gone, one of the most popular items was Blu-Ray player, ranging from $120-$140. Most stores sold out of these items very quickly, and it shows that there is demand for HD physical media players. Once it reaches a reasonable price point of course.
By this time next year I think BD's will make four to five times the market that they now share today. Or more. As for why anime BD's in Japan outsell all other types. Well I speculate that it is because anime DVDs will still fill a 16:9 screen completely, while movies will still leave black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. Though live-action TV shows should be able to fill it as well. So maybe it's just they love anime. 
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Kougeru
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i still think 60 dollars for 3 episodes of macross bluray is WAAAAY overpriced
i also think 4-5 times todays market share is too much. It will probably 2-3 or less...especially with the economy as it is, people (at least people i know) are spending a lot less on entertainment. |
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walw6pK4Alo
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I know HD takes up more space, but I still expect American companies to load more episodes onto each disc, a BD is 50 gigs dual layer, and I can't see each episode being more than 5 gigs. I expect half at least 6 episodes per disc. |
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GATSU
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Dargon: Japan doesn't get Black Friday.
And these figures just prove that BD is a geek toy for people who don't mind triple-dipping, and that it'll die out like the Mini-Disc. |
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fighterholic
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Blue ray though I can imagine is freaking expensive over there. But it's on the rise.
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Dargonxtc
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Yeah I know. What does that have to do with anything? I was comparing Japan's increase, with a probable and similar increase that occurred just a few days ago in the States. If millions of people bought Blu-ray players last Friday, then it means a good chunk of those are going to start buying Blu-ray discs.
Or it could mean the market share increased 373% over nine months. |
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jdnation
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Comparing blu-ray to mini-disc is just plain ignorant...
Blu-ray has been reached the market share it has faster than DVD ever did. In time it will grow, and once it gets high enough you can expect to see studios and forcing people to upgrade by putting exclusive content on blu-ray or simply making the film BD-only... one case for example is the upcoming Advent Children Complete which should sell very well, especially considering it will have a demo for FFXIII for the Japanese market. Also once blu-ray hardware manufacturing is as cheap as DVD players today, manufacturers will stop manufacturing DVD players and all you'll find in stores are blu-ray players just as how practically all electronics shops only sell flat screen HDTVs. Since blu-ray plays and even upscales DVD, there'll be even more openness to adopt blu-ray unlike the VHS to DVD days where people had to replace entire collections. With blu-ray there is no requirement to and people will keep their own stuff and only buy new releases or if prices are still too high selectively purchase certain movies that will be more beneficial on blu-ray such as The Dark Knight. The economic downturn will certainly hit blu-ray's momentum but it'll keep going. Usually during such times people will stop paying for gas in their car and going out all that often, so they'll settle on home entertainment, so in fact it's possible that the recession might even spur blu-ray and DVD and video game sales as more people stay home and find it the more affordable venue for doing stuff. |
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GATSU
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Dargon: Actually, sales are up, but profits are down, because studios had to slash prices significantly for people to buy into BD. [Thanks to electoral-vote.com for the link.] What that means is that, even if BD sales go up across the board, manufacturers and studio are going to be broke for some time. That's part of why the Wii was more successful than the PS3.
As for whether the newcomers will be encouraged to buy BD, that depends on whether BD is priced competitively with DVD. If not, then the people who bought BD players did so merely to upscale their current collection. jdnation: BD's gotten a larger market share sooner than DVD, but only because the studios tried to dump it on the consumer, rather than let market forces decide its success or failure. DVD won over DIVX, because that's what people wanted, not because it had the most support from the studios. As for exclusive content, if you have to turn those players into DS'es or Wiis, as Disney's doing with some of their products, you're basically acknowledging that the Internet is the wave of the future for movies, and not BD. And including a demo for a game which is on two next-gen consoles, one of which offers direct streaming of movies and shows, is just another example of that type of Freudian slip. Oh, and HDTVs are another example of a product being dumped on the consumer-this time by the government. If the FCC didn't force the country to convert to HD signals, no one would buy those things, especially since their televisions work just fine without them. Also, there are already cheap non-BD up-scaling players on the market. |
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varmintx
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edzieba
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Not surprising. Discrete vector-based media like anime show much more noticeable gains from a resolution increase than fractal media (i.e. live action).
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Super_Vegeta
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WOW! Thats really cool that so much anime is being sold on BD. I wish more was released on Blu Ray here in Canada (North America). Anyway that said, I'm not really able to understand all the economic stuff you guys are talking about. . . well I could if I did a little research, but its early and I'm lazy.
As for BD and DVD, I don't know if I'll be RE-buying my entire collection, however, I've heard rumours about some newer series going to be released on BD so I'm actually stalling on getting some of the newer series I want to see if they get a BD release. IMO some anime already looks very good in widescreen or animorphic wide, and as much as I'd love to have them all on BD economically for its not reasonable. Although I will be re-purchasing a few faves on BD (assuming they get released). So yeah I can certainly understand how some people can doubt whether the quality difference is worth the extra money. (in most cases I would say yes, especially for action movies with lots of explosions.) Although I guess thats the good thing about BD players is that if you don't want to rebuy something the BD player also plays DVDs and often upscales the quality too. (PS3 FTW!) I hope that BD sales (especially anime, since North American TV and movies have been rather lacking recently IMO. . . save for a few gems like Ironman, The Dark Knight, and a few HBO series, like the Tudors, etc.) I know that while I'm still buying some stuff on DVD (anime series box-sets), whenever possible I'm buying all new stuff (including anime, actually particularily want anime on BD) on Blu ray disc. GAH! I wish all the series I wanted were released on BD! |
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GATSU
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ed: If they're not the same thing, why did the feds offer to subsidize boxes for people who didn't want to get rid of their televisions, or couldn't afford to do so?
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asimpson2006
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The government is helping by paying for boxes to get DTV is that if someone who can't afford a new TV or does not have cable or sat TV can still get channels on their TV. It's to do is it so that if somebody still wants TV channels but doesn't want to upgrade their TV or buy cable or sat they can do so. Digital TV and HDTV are not the same. Digital TV has both HD and SD (Standard Definition) DTV is more efficient than analog TV and as a result can have more channels overall. Here are some links to help understand DTV. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/dtv.htm |
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reanimator
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Overpriced? Kougeru, I have feeling that you never checked average Anime DVD & BD price in Japan. That's normal in Anime market over there. walw6pK4Alo: You know, that's not going to happen. Why? The profit margin is too slim to cram in more episodes per disc. Most BD Anime titles are niche to begin with. Non-Japanese consumers are lot luckier than Japanese. American companies are already putting average of 4 episodes per disc and releasing cheaper DVD-box sets, and you're expecting them to tighten their belts more? Get real. |
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