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INTEREST: AKB48 Idol Group to Spawn JKT48 Spinoff in Indonesia




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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:44 am Reply with quote
The virus is spreading. Laughing

Really? Indonesia?! One of the more conservative cultures?!? They'd sooner have a fatwa on their cute li'l exposed tushies! Laughing
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Yosuke Suzuki



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:27 am Reply with quote
this is the first time i heard this info,,
i'm a indonesian and if they really serious about it then no problem,coz i'm sick of the indonesian imitating korean boyband/girlband,,pretty popular in here
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madlaxNoir2001



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:29 am Reply with quote
here hoping for an American spinoff team .
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tenshi no hikari



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:37 am Reply with quote
well, I'm come from Indonesia too..
that's great!!
I'm sick of Korean influence in Indonesia...
It's looks like I'm very odd, just because I never know about a single band from Korea...
But, if Japan can make a great influence in Indonesian Music... That's very great... LOL

By the way... when will the audition takes place and time?
and what are the procedures? can anyone tell me?
thanks ^^v
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CareyGrant



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:14 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
The virus is spreading. Laughing

Really? Indonesia?! One of the more conservative cultures?!? They'd sooner have a fatwa on their cute li'l exposed tushies! Laughing


Well, if I were to have a fatwa... sorry, I spaced out there for a second on "cute li'l exposed tushies!" and I lost my train of thought. Wait... nope. It's gone. ;3

I presume JKT stands for Jakarta?

Personally, I think Girls Gen. is hotter., but I wouldn't kick AKB48 out of bed for eating chips.
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Neohybrid_kai



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:50 am Reply with quote
To think that this news even manage to appear in my ANN newsfeed, I'm shocked. Yes, its all Korean music that's hip in my country nowadays but I myself didn't care much about idols. But at least this one is "official". You wouldn't want to know how many copy cat boy/girlband here (though most of it are copying korean girl/boyband)

JKT stands for Jakarta of course, all the big event are usually held there. The audition has already closed, I think, since I remember reading one of my friend's post in FB, a cosplayer, that she already went to the audition few days ago (I live in different city far from the capital).
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CareyGrant



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:23 pm Reply with quote
Neohybrid_kai wrote:
To think that this news even manage to appear in my ANN newsfeed, I'm shocked. Yes, its all Korean music that's hip in my country nowadays but I myself didn't care much about idols. But at least this one is "official". You wouldn't want to know how many copy cat boy/girlband here (though most of it are copying korean girl/boyband)


Ok, I've got to ask: what is the difference, language aside, between Korean girl groups and Japanese girl groups?

To my untrained eye they appear similar in composition. Lots of cute/hot girls? Check. Lip synching to choreographed dances? Check. Get payed a pitance compared to the 10's to 100's of millions there handlers, managers, labels and talent agencies make? Check. Glossy, high-style, high-concept overproduced music videos? Check. Pimped out by said agencies to the rich and powerful men of Asia? (sadly) Most likely check.

madlaxNoir2001 wrote:
here hoping for an American spinoff team .


While not American, we've already had our all-female super group -The Spice Girls- back in the 90's. And given the cyclical nature of musical taste and entertainment it will probably be a decade or two before we see another craze like N'Sync, Backstreet Boys, and Spice Girls hit big in the West.
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LLy_BosHi



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:53 pm Reply with quote
woah, I though JKT48 is a joke. but then it's going to be a real!!..

CareyGrant wrote:
Ok, I've got to ask: what is the difference, language aside, between Korean girl groups and Japanese girl groups?

To my untrained eye they appear similar in composition. Lots of cute/hot girls? Check. Lip synching to choreographed dances? Check. Get payed a pitance compared to the 10's to 100's of millions there handlers, managers, labels and talent agencies make? Check. Glossy, high-style, high-concept overproduced music videos? Check. Pimped out by said agencies to the rich and powerful men of Asia? (sadly) Most likely check.


I think they have different style in appearance and music..
but I don't know the detail cause I don't watch or listen any girlband/boyband idols..
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Altorrin



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:18 pm Reply with quote
CareyGrant wrote:

Ok, I've got to ask: what is the difference, language aside, between Korean girl groups and Japanese girl groups?

To my untrained eye they appear similar in composition. Lots of cute/hot girls? Check. Lip synching to choreographed dances? Check. Get payed a pitance compared to the 10's to 100's of millions there handlers, managers, labels and talent agencies make? Check. Glossy, high-style, high-concept overproduced music videos? Check. Pimped out by said agencies to the rich and powerful men of Asia? (sadly) Most likely check.


Style. As a huge generalization:

Japanese groups:
- More of a focus on cuteness.
- Sing cheesier-sounding yet typically very generic songs--for instance, there's a lot of that ridiculous "boing!" sound effect in Japanese idol songs than in Korean ones. However, they cover an array of genres, from generic R&B to generic hip hop to generic enka to generic traditional Indian-sounding-whatever, all sung in an excessively cutesy style.
- Wear ridiculous childlike and often foofy outfits, nothing any reasonable teenager (or at least anyone who doesn't live in Japanese tourism magazines) would wear.
- Greater percentages of the group sing in childish voices.
- Possibly lower budget videos?

Korean groups:
- More of a focus on coolness.
- Sing poppier-sounding yet typically very generic songs--there is virtually no rock music or anything that even approaches rock music to speak of. Lots more autotune than a Japanese group. Never really goes outside of R&B, hip hop, and synthpop.
- Wear more street looking clothes one could possibly actually buy at a store outside of Harajuku (or some sort of Akihabara lolicon cosplay store or something...) or whatever.
- Greater percentages of mature songs, each group is more likely to have a rapper among them.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:20 pm Reply with quote
CareyGrant wrote:

Ok, I've got to ask: what is the difference, language aside, between Korean girl groups and Japanese girl groups?


Here Carey, as I mentioned then: Laughing

enurtsol wrote:

Incidentally, here's the gist of difference between j-pop idols and k-pop idols:

J-pop idols:

K-pop idols:

Notice the difference in emphasis? Laughing


The girls are actually about the same age range but:

J-pop - emphasis on "young-ness" in baby-cute looks, style, sound, song lyrics, choreography, etc.

K-pop - emphasis on "budding youth-to-woman" rite of passage on same.
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CareyGrant



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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:34 pm Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
CareyGrant wrote:

Ok, I've got to ask: what is the difference, language aside, between Korean girl groups and Japanese girl groups?


Here Carey, as I mentioned then: Laughing

enurtsol wrote:

Incidentally, here's the gist of difference between j-pop idols and k-pop idols:

J-pop idols:

K-pop idols:

Notice the difference in emphasis? Laughing


The girls are actually about the same age range but:

J-pop - emphasis on "young-ness" in baby-cute looks, style, sound, song lyrics, choreography, etc.

K-pop - emphasis on "budding youth-to-woman" rite of passage on same.


Ah, I see... K-Pop certainly has the edge on sexy & provocative, it appears, especially when juxtaposed with J-pop's blinding "cuteness" (which looks more like a caricature or infatalism when compared side-by-side).

Personally, I never understood the Japanese attraction towards "cuteness," let alone any sort of sexual attraction. I mean, just think about it. Puppies and kittens are cute--ok, bad imagery, but you get my point. Sexy is sexy.

Faced with this evidence, I'd say K-pop is the hotness.
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