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Cecilthedarkknight_234



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:20 am Reply with quote
stealing manga... serious damn business in japan.
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VORTIA
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:23 am Reply with quote
Seriously, kids? There's this thing called the internet now, where people can downlo-

You know what? Forget it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:32 am Reply with quote
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According to the police, the three fled in Moriyama's small car at high speeds and repeatedly ignored traffic signals.

which wouldn't happen if they weren't being chased

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The police pursued the suspects in over 20 cars and at least one helicopter
... for ...
manga volumes worth 56,000 yen (about US$700)

I can understand a big pursuit for something critical, or really dangerous, a bomb, or kidnapping, etc .. but here? Why not just discreetly follow them, then recover the manga and charge them without posing a threat to anyone in the process?
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Proz512



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:34 am Reply with quote
VORTIA wrote:
Seriously, kids? There's this thing called the internet now, where people can downlo-

You know what? Forget it.


With the new copyright law in Japan, expect to see/hear about more "World's Wildest Japanese Videos" re-enactments by people who really want some manga or anime.
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:39 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:
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According to the police, the three fled in Moriyama's small car at high speeds and repeatedly ignored traffic signals.

which wouldn't happen if they weren't being chased

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The police pursued the suspects in over 20 cars and at least one helicopter
... for ...
manga volumes worth 56,000 yen (about US$700)

I can understand a big pursuit for something critical, or really dangerous, a bomb, or kidnapping, etc .. but here? Why not just discreetly follow them, then recover the manga and charge them without posing a threat to anyone in the process?


Japan's crime rate is pretty low.. those cops gotta keep themselves busy somehow.
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DarkPhoenixMishima



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:40 am Reply with quote
Twenty cars seem to be a bit much. I'd say ten would suffice for a robbery chase.
And a helicopter? Really? Now that's just overkill.
Does Japan roll out tanks for DVDs?
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penguintruth



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:41 am Reply with quote
Reminds me of when there was a fight in my high school and half the town's police force showed up.

Bored police.
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Melicans



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:43 am Reply with quote
configspace wrote:
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According to the police, the three fled in Moriyama's small car at high speeds and repeatedly ignored traffic signals.

which wouldn't happen if they weren't being chased


Not necessarily a result of the chase. You steal something, you want to get away. We're not talking about a couple of shoplifted chocolate bars. They stole several hundred dollars worth of merchandise. You steal that much, you want to get away from the crime scene as fast as possible, and probably without much regard for traffic laws while doing so.

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The police pursued the suspects in over 20 cars and at least one helicopter
... for ...
manga volumes worth 56,000 yen (about US$700)

I can understand a big pursuit for something critical, or really dangerous, a bomb, or kidnapping, etc .. but here? Why not just discreetly follow them, then recover the manga and charge them without posing a threat to anyone in the process?


If they're breaking that many traffic laws by speeding and ignoring traffic signals, they are putting the lives of a great number of ordinary citizens at very high risk. People in desperation have no regard for the lives or safety of others. In that situation you have to stop them before they end up killing someone.

This isn't a situation where they sent 20 cars and a helicopter after them because of the theft. They sent them because those idiots were on the verge of killing innocent bystanders by speeding away from the crime scene with no thought other than getting as far away from it as possible.
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:48 am Reply with quote
Stealing manga is serious business, yo.

I'm amazed they were able to speed on Japan's incredibly jammed and tight roads. They could've seriously hurt a ton of people.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:06 am Reply with quote
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I'm amazed they were able to speed on Japan's incredibly jammed and tight roads.


You can......complete with Bayside Shakedown music!!
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Chagen46



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:12 am Reply with quote
Sunday Silence wrote:
Chagen46 wrote:
I'm amazed they were able to speed on Japan's incredibly jammed and tight roads.


You can......complete with Bayside Shakedown music!!


Dammit, I'm not enough of JDM nerd to identify the speeder's car.

...WHat the hell, looks like a 4-door Skyline...don't remember if those exist or not. If it wasn't for the 4 doors, I'd assume it was a Silvia, but...Mistubishi Galant, maybe?

Shit, I can't tell, there's no badge either, for some odd reason

(Oh god, I'm a car nerd. I see a video of a chase and I immediately try to identify the perp's car...)

EDIT: Looks like 4-door skylines do exist, and it looks like them, but I find it unlikely that the perps would have one.


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configspace



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:14 am Reply with quote
Melicans wrote:
configspace wrote:
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According to the police, the three fled in Moriyama's small car at high speeds and repeatedly ignored traffic signals.

which wouldn't happen if they weren't being chased


Not necessarily a result of the chase. You steal something, you want to get away. We're not talking about a couple of shoplifted chocolate bars. They stole several hundred dollars worth of merchandise. You steal that much, you want to get away from the crime scene as fast as possible, and probably without much regard for traffic laws while doing so.

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The police pursued the suspects in over 20 cars and at least one helicopter
... for ...
manga volumes worth 56,000 yen (about US$700)

I can understand a big pursuit for something critical, or really dangerous, a bomb, or kidnapping, etc .. but here? Why not just discreetly follow them, then recover the manga and charge them without posing a threat to anyone in the process?


If they're breaking that many traffic laws by speeding and ignoring traffic signals, they are putting the lives of a great number of ordinary citizens at very high risk. People in desperation have no regard for the lives or safety of others. In that situation you have to stop them before they end up killing someone.

This isn't a situation where they sent 20 cars and a helicopter after them because of the theft. They sent them because those idiots were on the verge of killing innocent bystanders by speeding away from the crime scene with no thought other than getting as far away from it as possible.

I think you've entirely mixed up cause and effect. When you think about it rationally, why would they want bring attention to themselves if they wanted to get away? If their objective is not to get caught, not to draw attention from police, why would they ignore traffic signals?

In addition, you ignore the risks to themselves in causing accidents. Think about the cost-benefit of a mere $700 (56,000 yen) of manga. It's hardly much, it's not cash, it's not something valuable like jewelry, it's not a bomb. Their own rational self-interest would not lead them to desperation in escape without being pursued.

Studies have already been done showing that chases makes things worse. People's behavior changes and they suddenly do things that they otherwise wouldn't have done. The big flashy police pursuit causes their desperation, where they've switched to fight-or-flight and now have a mindset of "nothing to lose", not the other way around.


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Thatguy3331



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:14 am Reply with quote
what? no chppper cam? chase cam? anything? we need details dammit! Anime hyper

but seriously this is crazy in so many ways.
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Sunday Silence



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:21 am Reply with quote
Chagen46 wrote:
...WHat the hell, looks like a 4-door Skyline...don't remember if those exist or not.


Yes, they do exist. And a "Skyline Station Wagon."
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:27 am Reply with quote
Thatguy3331 wrote:
what? no chppper cam? chase cam? anything? we need details dammit! Anime hyper


Toy re-enactment maybe?
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