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NEWS: Viz Media: Shonen Jump Alpha to Move to Simultaneous Model 'Very Soon'


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Sheleigha



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:20 pm Reply with quote
Good direction to step in! No more hearing people whine about how behind it is now. I hope this will get more people to sign up for it.
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Aaronrules380



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:28 pm Reply with quote
It's a good thing and I hope it works for them, but there is still one major problem: Scanlations of many jump series, especially the big ones Alpha shows, are released and read almost a week earlier than they actually come out in Japan. And I highly doubt shueisha will be ok with viz releasing the chapters before they become available in Japan
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Jeddy017



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:30 pm Reply with quote
Whoa!That took less than a year Shocked .I didn't see that coming so soon.
Well,this is good anyway.
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lLuffyl



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:34 pm Reply with quote
It's pretty cool. I would only pay for it if it was the entire Shonen Jump magazine though. With only select series, it seems lacking.
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Aaronrules380



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:42 pm Reply with quote
I agree that would be awesome, but I think there are a few reasons that isn't the case. One is the difference between American and Japanese ideas on what's ok for kids. SJA is trying to market to people besides the major anime and manga nerds. I think they'd have a hard time putting in series like beelzebub, Assasin's classroom, and Gintama without pissing somebody off a lot unfortunately. Not to mention series like those can be notoriously hard to pretty much impossible to translate without losing the meaning entirely. Fans like me might be willing to just read translator notes and such, but most people would probably be turned off by it.
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Ryu Shoji



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:08 pm Reply with quote
Moving to an international model would be cool too.
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Revolutionary



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:25 pm Reply with quote
This is VERY exciting news. I have been very satisfied with SJA as it is. I didn't expect this so soon.

Sheleigha wrote:
Good direction to step in! No more hearing people whine about how behind it is now. I hope this will get more people to sign up for it.


Unfortunately, we'll still deal with whining from the falsely-entitled scanlation crowd who, the last time I checked, get Jump manga a week or so ahead of time. =/

No matter how good you make a product, this fandom will whine. It's a fact.
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EpicLotus



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:31 pm Reply with quote
My only whine is a lack of back-issues for purchase. I still can't believe that you can't go back and buy the digital issues you missed. It's completely retarded. That was the beauty of the print magazine, in that if you missed an issue on the newsstand for whatever reason, you could probably find it second hand to catch up. Now the only way to get current with SJA is to either buy the subscription and wait for the collected volumes to catch up with where your sub started, or to go read the chapters illegally.

I mean, it's like they want people to do the wrong thing when the solution to doing the right thing would be so easy to implement (not to mention it'd make them a lot of money from people like me).
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Kazemon15



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:31 pm Reply with quote
Simultaneous release? For Digital? ....maybe....

Oh, only for rent? Probably not gonna go for it...


It is also does not include titles they cancelled? (Reborn, Gintama, ect)? ....Goodbye and good day.
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perroloco



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:43 pm Reply with quote
My god... People really can't stop complaining can't they?
I can already see other complains apart from the ones already wrote on this thread..
-Viz censors the blaming. (Yeah because we need characters screaming SHIT! fudge! TITS! every damn panel)
-Viz changes the japanese onomatopeia (Though I think they left it intact in Alpha?)
-Not all series! (While I doubt we will ever get to see the magazine with as many series, I hope they do get to add Hunter X Hunter and Gintama and Reborn for those that got those mangas, I did get lots of Gintama).
-Even a simulatenous model is slow! (Seriously.. Wow.. -.- I hope I don't read anything like this on any forum I visit because I will go berserk..)

I mean sigh.. I guess I can't complain to people complaining since I don't buy Alpha (I live in Mexico).. But geez, there is people that well.. Wow.. That just founds reasons not to buy a damn nice service.

BTW since I haven't bought any Alpha issue, does they have content apart from the mangas? Like physical JUMPs (Of those I have a lot Smile, they had some articles and stuff.

Also I agree with you EpicLotus, but that would probably be a breach of the agreement (I think that is the term?) its likely Viz and Shueisha have an agreement of renting not giving the mangas.. Anyway guys is pretty much like in Japan, its not like they collect each and every Weekly Shonen Jump, I mean in like less than a year you would have a chair made of those things, imagine in 5 years you could have a bed of WSJs lol.. I know there must be an otaku in Japan that sleeps in a pile of magazines haha.

Nice going Viz, hopefully this bring more suscribers..
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Thatguy3331



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:10 pm Reply with quote
I was going to consider subscribing to this once I confirm I have a job, but if we're going to be current I'll change that to a definite!
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TitanXL



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:15 pm Reply with quote
perroloco wrote:
I mean sigh.. I guess I can't complain to people complaining since I don't buy Alpha (I live in Mexico).. But geez, there is people that well.. Wow.. That just founds reasons not to buy a damn nice service.


It's just simple supply and demand mechanics. Remember, companies need their fans, not the other way around. They have to adapt or get left in the dust.
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Aaronrules380



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:30 pm Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
perroloco wrote:
I mean sigh.. I guess I can't complain to people complaining since I don't buy Alpha (I live in Mexico).. But geez, there is people that well.. Wow.. That just founds reasons not to buy a damn nice service.


It's just simple supply and demand mechanics. Remember, companies need their fans, not the other way around. They have to adapt or get left in the dust.
Not really. Supply and demand economics makes the assumption that fans need the company if they want the product (In other words you have to assume no stealing). BUt people constantly pirate manga, which throws a wrench into the whole supply and demand thing. Because of the nature of the piracy and the fact that Viz needs permission from japanese publishers to get anything done, Viz literally can't give us translations as fast and cost free as scanlators do. Aside from being official, creating jobs, and helping support the mangaka, the only thing Viz really has to offer over scanlators is the quality of the images and translations, but even this is offset by higher quality translations being released before the manga is even available in Japan
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agila61



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:34 pm Reply with quote
TitanXL wrote:
perroloco wrote:
I mean sigh.. I guess I can't complain to people complaining since I don't buy Alpha (I live in Mexico).. But geez, there is people that well.. Wow.. That just founds reasons not to buy a damn nice service.

It's just simple supply and demand mechanics. Remember, companies need their fans, not the other way around. They have to adapt or get left in the dust.

That sounds like demand and demand mechanics. There's no recognition of cost and other supply constraints in evidence there.
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configspace



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:44 pm Reply with quote
Is Shounen Jump Alpha just a small subset of the Weekly Jump mag, or is it a selection across Shueisha publications? Like, say, anything from Jump Square (any chance of TLR-D?)

Also, do they censor? I'm interested now, but I'm definitely worried about that.
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