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RyanSaotome
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This was the best show of the Summer and I've ordered/preordered all the BD Volumes. It had the best single episode of the year in anime (Episode 6), so much cuteness, and is basically a giant fanservice show for Fate fans. I can't wait until the 2nd season.
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leatherhead333
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Personally as someone who has not seen ANY of other Fate series shows or spinoffs (I know i'm an awful person!) i can't say that i liked this all that much.
I'm not sure about that last bit about the power of love conquering all not being a factor because that is NOT true. The final battle is basically won this way (power of friendship/love same thing really). Rin and Luvia arguing all the time was annoying. Not funny just annoying. It's fine for characters to be rivals and try to outdo each other but when they just keep spouting the same crap about how low below the other person is OVER AND OVER again it gets old quick. I honestly wanted one of their enemies to kill them so they would shut the hell up but sadly that didn't happen. The drama in this show is barely even worth noting either. I mean they are put in various dangerous situations and there is some strife between IIlya and Miyu a few times throughout the series but other than that it's nonexistent. Not ONCE did i feel like any of these characters were in any danger of dying. There was only one battle i thought would end up ending in a character death and that was the one with Saber. But through some generic shounen trope formulas they all managed to survive. Honestly i feel like a show like this should have focused more on it's comedy aspect than trying to be serious. There some genuinely funny moments throughout the show but they are few and far in-between. Ruby actually wasn't THAT annoying to me honestly. She was my favorite character in the show and some of her references/jokes were gut pullers. Everyone else just felt WAY to.....flat. As in i wasn't given a real reason to care about them. Quite frankly if this wasn't a fate based series i don't think it would have done as well sales/popularity wise. Aside from the fate characters you get a generic magical girl series that KNOWS it's generic (the show will constantly point out it's own generic aspects) but can get away with it because of it's name. People have told me that the second season is where things will really start to pick up so I'm willing to try it out when it finally releases as the series wasn't a TOTAL wreck for me. I just hope that the story is actually something worth getting into next time around. |
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DmonHiro
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You're kidding me, right? You have GOT to be kidding me! Leaving Saber aside for a moment, in the battle with Assassin, you're telling me that there was not danger of dying? In the battle with Berserker, who revived himself TWICE, there was no danger of dying? Wow... just... wow... some people... |
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HitokiriShadow
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The 3 episodes around the middle were easily the high points of the entire Fate franchise for me. I wasn't particularly impressed with the first episode or two, but by the end this was one of my favorite shows of the season and I ended up importing it and all of the manga.
My main issues with the show are a few lousy CG scenes and the second spoiler below.
The show at least went to very limits of 'imply' with the spoiler[Maid Miyu] scene. She also spoiler[definitely has a stirring in her loins for her brother, annoyingly.] But yeah, the show is DEFINITELY aimed at otaku, not little girls or general audiences.
Huh? What is this referring to?
This season covered the original 2 volume series of Prisma Illya. The second series/arc is 5 volumes, titled "Prisma Illya 2wei" and currently a 3rd series titles "Prisma Illya 3rei" is ongoing with a 4th volume (including an OAD bundle) releasing in January. So yeah, there's a lot more to cover. And from what I've seen of comments from manga readers, it's pretty widely agreed that Zwei is vastly better than what this series covered.
Oh, yeah. This annoyed me in the early episodes (and I was amused to see Theron mention Ayeka and Ryoko, because that's exactly who I thought of when watching them in the first episode) but I didn't mind it by the end.
I like how you emphasized "not ONCE" and then contradict yourself with a time it did happen.
For a Fate series, it WAS a rather poor seller. |
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leatherhead333
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Berserker was the final boss and Miyu was the only one fighting him before IIlya showed up. Miyu quite obviously has plot armor at this point considering how the series had been going. And it helps how Illya was given a pep talk right before she goes to rescue her. Do YOU really think anyone was going to die? Berserker was even given the classical "this ability can only be defeated if the two main characters team up". It was quite obvious that Illya was going to come save her so there wasn't much to worry about. The Assassin fight was very predictable. Considering that IIlya had just unleashed her hidden power in the fight with Saber before this it was pretty clear that she was going to have to rely on it again after she was put in mortal danger. I've watched enough shounen to see these things coming a mile away. The fight only served as a means to temporarily break up Illya and Miyu. Illya was the one who put them in danger but would it make sense for her to accidentally kill the other characters at this point in the story? 
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Dimlos
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Dessa
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spoiler[Lord El-Melloi II] in episodes 2 and 10 shares a voice with spoiler[Waver Velvet]. In the proper Fate/ universe, spoiler[Waver returned to Clock Tower and ends up recognized as Lord El-Melloi II]. |
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HitokiriShadow
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Ah, thanks. That IS interesting! |
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Fencedude5609
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Oh people didn't know that was spoiler[Waver]? I thought that was obvious.
re: People being in danger. Just because everyone survives the fight does not mean no one nearly got killed. This is stupid logic. So you are saying because the show didn't off a chacter for no reason, the stakes weren't high enough? |
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Blazaking
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Gotta agree with this. That scene in Episode 6 was absolutely mind blowing. |
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leatherhead333
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No you are missing the point. I don't mean that they weren't in danger in show. What i meant was was that the situations they were put in felt like a farce because it was obvious to see that no one would die in a show like this. For example When you watch something like a comedy based anime and they are in a fight are you really worried about anyone getting killed off? Obviously not. This anime somewhat tries to have a serious atmosphere but it's obvious from the moeness/cuteness and large amount of comedic moments that no one is going to be in any real danger. Not to mention that the cast of characters involved in these bouts is already extremely small. And a death wouldn't make sense in the slightest. The show wouldn't be funny if that was the case. This isn't Madoka after all. This is just a personal preference but I don't like a show that has predictable outcomes likes that when it comes to fights. Though personally i never made a connection with any of these characters for me to care in the slightest about their demise anyway 
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Fencedude5609
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Wow, just....wow. So you are saying that things can't be tense if people don't die. At all. Goddamn thats a terrible way to look at things. |
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HitokiriShadow
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I think your real problem is that last sentence. But what, precisely, do you think the show should have done differently? |
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enurtsol
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It doesn't have to be comedy though. Like if you're watching an action movie with Sylvester Stallone or Bruce Willis - y'know that guy's not gonna die no matter what they put him through. It's freaking Sly. |
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FenixFiesta
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@ leatherhead So during the spoiler[Illya vs Saber Alter fight,] you completely expected that resolution from episodes prior in the series. I can agree that the audience probably won't be as surprised or as shocked as say Miyu's performance that was displayed, but even so spoiler[the main heroine suddenly yielding overwhelming power that the show had not prefaced should have been a "the shit just got real" moment.] As with what other have said, death, and even heinous injury, is unnecessary to establish that "the battles are meaningful for the characters". |
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