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malvarez1
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Personally, one of my peeves is when a manga/light-novel adaption ends before the source material. I hate cliff-hanger or open endings. Honestly, I don't like starting those shows unless I have read the source.
That's part of why I liked Shakugan no Shana. An ACTUAL ending, it adapts the whole thing. But...I guess that's one of the risks of adaptions. We have to live with it. |
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rinmackie
 Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
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Finally, someone asked about the last 2 volumes of Hellsing Ultimate! I've been waiting for an announcement for awhile now and I'm starting to get worried. I'm hoping we'll hear something before this year is out. C'mon guys, it's just 2 more volumes and we're done! How hard can it be?!
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mgosdin
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Oh the Joys of negotiation. It's bad enough in the US with a common culture ( snicker ) and language ( ha! ).
I hope the good folks at Funimation weren't drinking something hot when they read the "Crack Team" line. 
Mark Gosdin |
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zensunni
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I have come to expect most anime, regardless of whether it is a manga or light novel adaptation, to have a sense of incompleteness. This is due to the nature of the industry and the reason that anime is made in the first place. Anime adaptations of manga and light novels are, in general, not done with the anime itself as the goal of the enterprise. The majority of them are done as a form of advertisement for the original source material or a way of wringing extra cash out of a franchise that is successfully selling products in another medium.
This isn't new at all. Look over the past decade and look at how many anime adaptations were done in the "middle" of the serialization (or series of novels) as opposed to those that were done at or near the end of the original work's run. You will find that the vast majority are done in the middle. This is why I find the approach done with both Toradora! and Golden Time so nice. As with Toradora! before it, the final light novel in the Golden Time series is due to be released during the final month of the run of the anime series. This means that the creators of the anime had, at least, an outline of the events of the final novel to work with from the initial planing stage, and probably advance reading copies to work from when doing the final scripts. In the case of Toradora!, some significant changes were made to trim the story to fit into the final two episodes, some of them were for the worse spoiler[The general sense of it being "rushed" and the change to when and how the protagonists re-unite at the end of the story]. Some of them were for the better. spoiler[The absolute best "first kiss" scene in the history of anime! Though the scene that takes place in the same bedroom of Ryuuji's grandparent's home in the novel is rather intensely sexy and would have been fun to see, the kiss scene itself is superior to the kiss in the novel, which takes place earlier in the story.] We won't know if Golden Time will opt for a more compressed version, but from the number of episodes left for it (3), I get the feeling it will get a pretty complete treatment. |
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Paiprince
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In a way, it's similar to how American networks do things with their shows. Order a set number of episodes (thus equaling one season), if it proves to be a hit, then they order more. The only difference is they can pull the plug whenever even during its initial run. That TV Drama Drive, for example, only lasted 4 episodes on TV before being pulled off the air with the future episodes only available online. That would never happen to anime now because that would throw off the studio staff and further anger fans and we all know how volatile the anime community can get.
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varmintx
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How much of a difference in bitrate would it be if you instead assumed the audio is DTS-MA?
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TarsTarkas
 Posts: 5825 Location: Virginia, United States |
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Really can't believe Funimation put themselves into this position for Hellsing Ultimate. They should have had the rights for the entire run from the get go. The Japanese won't give a damn, whether or not, the rest of the world gets to see the final two episodes. You wouldn't think that we would be having this problem in this day an age.
Really looks like those who bought the two Funimation Hellsing Ultimate volumes are going to be screwed. |
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Brand
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As someone who has a ton of never to be complete manga series, "eh." It sucks for sure but it isn't the end of the world. There are probably a ton of reason why they couldn't get the rights to the whole series at once. Things I can think of are: -Maybe they took over Geneon USA contract which could have been on a per episode bases -Maybe the Japanese producers wanted a lot per episode, so they could only get so many at a time -There was no way of knowing 6 years ago this series would finish, why take the risk? -Maybe they had licensed the full series but because of the buy outs the contract is in some sort of limbo. Also, in this case if someone wanted to know the ending and wanted to be a 100% legit about it, they could just read the final volumes of the manga. |
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TarsTarkas
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Perhaps you are right, it could be a single thing, or a combination of things. But they should have waited before releasing those two volumes last year, until they had the final episodes locked down. Their promotion for the series made it seem like there was no problems. As it stands now, those who bought 80% of the series thinking this was a done deal are not going to be happy campers, and they will be right in pointing their fingers at Funimation. |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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None, actually. DTS-MA isn't very useful for stereo audio IMHO. Whenever I've tried to compress stereo audio with it, the .dtsma file came out bigger than the WAV file it came from! Very useful for 5.1, but pointless for stereo I'm afraid. |
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varmintx
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BigOnAnime
Encyclopedia Editor
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It's really a shame how so few of series can receive complete adaptations, but that's how it goes. You just have to get used to it, and hey there's always the source material.
Though it can really suck for say various light novels if they don't receive any sort of translation, fan or official, so all you have is the incomplete anime unless you learn Japanese and get your hands on the light novels. |
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CrownKlown
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Okay I have a question, when you are talking about the one disc releases, are you referring to a dvd or blu ray release, because clearly they are not the same.
I don't work on anime for a living, but have a decent collection, and several series including Utena have 6 or 7 episodes on one DVD disc. With that said and my rudimentary knowledge that Blu Rays are somewhere around 4 or more times bigger than DVDs, I don't see how its an issue to fit 12 episodes on one Blu Ray. Obviously 12 episodes on one DVD is another matter. |
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dtm42
Posts: 14084 Location: currently stalking my waifu |
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But surely with DVD releases the resolution will be lower (isn't the maximum like 576p?), so the bitrate can be and will be smaller than a 1080p episode on a Blu-Ray. That's my totally ignorant explanation. |
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Gina Szanboti
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I won't regret getting those first 8 episodes even if the other two don't get released, just because the dub is so damned good. What I would regret is never getting to hear a dub for the last two. I think my biggest fear is that Funi will eventually license it, but will have waited so long that by then all the original cast will be unavailable and we'll end up with Michael J. Tatum as Alucard and Vic Mignogna as the Major. (both fine VAs, but not for those roles) |
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