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Man vs Pillow
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 Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 1:39 pm
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I never read "All You Need Is Kill", but the storyline sounds like a war-centered version of Higurashi, not that that's a bad thing. I'm actually quite interested in seeing this movie.
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Mr_42
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 2:34 pm
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| Man vs Pillow wrote: | | I never read "All You Need Is Kill", but the storyline sounds like a war-centered version of Higurashi, not that that's a bad thing. I'm actually quite interested in seeing this movie. |
I have read it and I'm starting to get worried.
I think those who haven't read the light novel or the manga are going to enjoy this a helluva lot more than those who have as the only way that I could tell that this film was the same thing was that Rita still has her original name.
If not for that I would have just gone, "Hmmm this reminds me of All You Need is Kill! I might enjoy this!"
I think you;re just gonna have to take the film as being entirely separate from the original story if you have read the novel and want to enjoy the film.
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GracieLizzy
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Location: Sunderland, England, UK
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:50 pm
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| Quote: | | Lt. Col. Bill Cage (Cruise) is an officer who has never seen a day of combat |
I'm sure the movie will explain this but how does one become a Lt. Col. which according to Wikipedia is just above the rank of major and just below colonel without seeing a days combat? High ranking family or something? In the light novel it makes sense because Kiriya is just a new recruit, why make him a Lt. Col. ...Cruise's age?
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enurtsol
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:07 pm
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| GracieLizzy wrote: |
| Quote: | | Lt. Col. Bill Cage (Cruise) is an officer who has never seen a day of combat |
I'm sure the movie will explain this but how does one become a Lt. Col. which according to Wikipedia is just above the rank of major and just below colonel without seeing a days combat? High ranking family or something? In the light novel it makes sense because Kiriya is just a new recruit, why make him a Lt. Col. ...Cruise's age? |
Maybe Officers School? Grunts don't like that when someone didn't rise thru the ranks but rather got their position thru Officers School.
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:44 pm
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One of the most amazing things I've thought about this movie is that anyone in Hollywood was able to get the original author to go along with this. I don't how the original author feels about this. I'd be even more surprised if someone tried to do an American version of "Sword Art Online." I don't know how it will be done,but I'd be surprised if anyone would attempt such a thing.
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MacAttack270
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:43 pm
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| enurtsol wrote: |
| GracieLizzy wrote: |
| Quote: | | Lt. Col. Bill Cage (Cruise) is an officer who has never seen a day of combat |
I'm sure the movie will explain this but how does one become a Lt. Col. which according to Wikipedia is just above the rank of major and just below colonel without seeing a days combat? High ranking family or something? In the light novel it makes sense because Kiriya is just a new recruit, why make him a Lt. Col. ...Cruise's age? |
Maybe Officers School? Grunts don't like that when someone didn't rise thru the ranks but rather got their position thru Officers School. |
Wrong. All officers become so through a commissioning source. The only way for someone to go from enlisted to officer is through what you term as "Officer's School." It is quite easy to get that high of a rank without seeing a day in combat if you're service as been during peacetime. Have some semblance of what you're talking about before answering a person's question.
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GATSU
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:04 am
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Snomaster:
| Quote: | | One of the most amazing things I've thought about this movie is that anyone in Hollywood was able to get the original author to go along with this. |
Get paid to have his book turned into a big-budget Hollywood movie? Of course he'll go along with it.
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Mr_42
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:06 am
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| MacAttack270 wrote: | |
Wrong. All officers become so through a commissioning source. The only way for someone to go from enlisted to officer is through what you term as "Officer's School." It is quite easy to get that high of a rank without seeing a day in combat if you're service as been during peacetime. Have some semblance of what you're talking about before answering a person's question. |
Calm down man, the guy was making an innocent assumption!
The entire pretext of All You Need is Kill is a world that has been in a state of total war for an extended period of time, therefore a combat inexperienced Lt. Col. would probably not exist. Given that almost everyone who goes into combat is killed, they would't send such a high ranked officer into direct combat (Suicide) (in the novel the highest ranked combatant is a technically Rita due to her special circumstances).
No doubt there is a reason in Edge of Tomorrow for this, as I said, we probably need to forget that the book was ever written in order to really enjoy the film. Also there's no need to have a go at someone for making a assumption about the military chain of command in a FICTIONAL world. Who's to say he's not right, maybe it is possible to rise through the ranks in the Edge of Tomorrow universe? Had you considered that?
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