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Stark700
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So hyped to see this! I'm glad this turned out to be one of the shows to air this Summer so less waiting.
Can't wait~ |
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Ranho
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I doubt I'll be watching this and those obnoxiously "shounen" character designs confirm it. (Woooh, action stance! Weaponry!)
When an anime was announced a few months ago, I read the first chapter of the manga out of curiousity and the "twist" had me rolling my eyes at another typical clumsy attempt at shock-value that the more violent shounen like "Mirai Nikki" and "Deadman Wonderland" (two horrible works, though the former is in a league of its own in terms of horribleness) have tried to do. I hate it when I can tell when the writer is either trying to toy with my emotions or mistakening me for a sicko and this only ever happens when brainless tactics (basically, when rape, violence, torture, pedophilia or all of the above are included into the story in such a way that comes across as pandering or an attempt to appear "edgy") are used. It didn't help that the violence and subject matter (corruption) seemed to make this your typical "revenge fantasy" type creation. BTW I'm not averse to violence, justified or not. I just hate "cruelty pandering". It's going to be another few years before we get character design as interesting and appropriate as "Steins;Gate"'s or "Kill la Kill"'s... |
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goldenmane
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I just hope it has better character development than Mirai Nikki but if its anything like it in terms of storytelling then it's gonna be pretty boring shit. |
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MangaBlog100
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Anime adaptations of a manga series are kind of meh. Will watch, though I'm not getting my hopes up since it's shounen.
spoiler[I would love to see Esdese going all DEREDERE on Tatsumi though...]
Completely agree with this. Shock value was average since nowadays, there are a ton of series that have similar things going on. YANDERES FTW! |
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wootsman
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@Ranho
Even if you do really like violence you have to admit the manga suffers from really poor character development, because of the anyone can die gimmick. |
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tomzz4
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I've started reading the manga and been thrilled to hear about anime adaptation. And I cannot wait for the series to begin. I've been longing for action filled series such as this for a while now, but none have lived up to my expectations and Akame ga Kill will hopefully stick to manga storyline and if so it should be one hell of an adventure
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CrownKlown
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I probably won't watch, but only due to the fact that half of the character listed don't make it more than a few episodes.
Akame is brutal and imo makes Attack of the Titans look like a children's show. Only other work I can think of that has this deceptive Shonen feel but turns tragic is Mismarca, the one about the prince whose dad gets beheaded and he has to use his wits to get back his kingdom. |
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dbzmike
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I can't wait to see it, I love the manga.
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Shory
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In a sense, isn't Kill la Kill also a rather in-your-face revenge fantasy? That's not letting me judge the series as a whole, don't get me wrong, but still. |
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Mr_42
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Wow! You really can't please anyone nowadays! (General setting spoilers ahead, Be warned!) Before, with Shonen series like Bleach, Onepiece etc, people bitched and whined about howspoiler[ no characters ever died and how villains were rarely dealt with permanently. Now it seems that, after Attack on Titan brought the "No-One-Is-Safe" trope to the mainstream that people are complaining about how it damages character development! What people seem unable to grasp is that the characters that are killed serve as development for the charcters that survive and the way that Akane Ga Kiru kills its characters is written for heavy effect. If you compare AGK to Aot methods, in AoT it is made clear that the humans are individually weak compared to the titans, thus we expect them to be killed easily and empathise with them when they survive. On the other hand, in AGK the main cast are a team of highly skilled killers who are the superior combatants in most situations, thus when one of them is killed it leaves an understandable on the other characters as well as the reader. Rather than saying "Oh look, more Shonen crap." consider that AGK is perhaps one of the best examples of blending the Shonen stereotype into a darker backdrop. The characters live in a corrupt military dictatorship, remove the fictional tech and it could be any third world country in our own universe! The problems that the everyday people of this universe face are loosely relatable and that is why the cruelty they suffer has an effect. I fully admit to bias in favour of the series. The artwork is stunning, the setting cohesive, the personalities of the characters are interesting, their abilities are varied, what humour there is is amusing and the artwork is absolutely stunning.]
I just hope your not referring to the cookie cutter charcter of the abandoned child who seeks to avenge her father and does so via the use of a transforming ability which allows her to what was it? "Grab weapon and action pose"? I think you're being a tad too cynical, remember: Everything's already been done. Lets just see what comes of it before we say "Well that was ****." |
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bastek66
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So many dead people.
Good that Esdese looks underwhelming, I hate her. Shame that manga turned shit lately. |
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Ranho
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@Mr_42
You're the second person to misunderstand. I wasn't praising Kill la Kill's story. I was praising its character design (and Steins;Gate's whose story was pretty good). |
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Mr_42
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So you meant literally how the characters look? In which case you can't really compare AGK to something like Steins;Gate, given that they're completely different in plot, setting and themes. If you think their character designs are boring I would point you to Seryuu's later design: http://mangafox.me/manga/akame_ga_kiru/v08/c037/2.html or even the reconfigured Incursio armour: http://mangafox.me/manga/akame_ga_kiru/v03/c014/33.html If you flit through the first 9 chapters of the series (up to the first prominent death) not one character said "I couldn't be strong" or words to that effect. spoiler[Schere siad she was sorry that she would never see the people who had become her family again and that she was thankful for the time she had spent with them. Her death was not a "I'm trying to make you feel saaaad HERE!"... moment , it was a sudden shock, if you anticipated that she would be ripped in half in a single panel you might be able to see the future because nothing prior to the last few panels even hinted that she might die.] Going back to your GoT comparison, I have only watched the first 2 seasons thus far but thespoiler[ death of Ned Stark was nothing if not a "I'm trying to make you feel saaaad HERE!"... moment. You really don't think so? Even with his youngest daughter watching? you don't thin that if we could have heard what he was thinking, like we can with Schere, we wouldn't have heard him thinking about how he would miss his family but was thankful for the time he spent with them?] It would be exactly the same, just less shocking because we knew it was going to happen. In AGK not one character from the main cast dies thinking, "I wasn't strong enough", they all have their own final thoughts, content in the knowledge that someone else will surpass them, regret that they didn't open up to people and proud that they fulfilled their duty to name the most prominent. I like the way you argue and you make good points but if you think a comic can cause an emotional response in a reader without manipulating them you're being naive. Every time we feel emotion it is because something affected us, something manipulated us and in fiction (books, comics, paintings) it has to be exaggerated because it isn't real. I feel you've gone into this with cynicism tinted goggles because you found "I couldn't be strong enough" in a place that it simply doesn't exist. If the writing in AGK is hokey as fcuk then so too is the writing in GoT. They both have the same tropes, they both kill members of the main cast suddenly and without warning, they both use emotional manipulation to allow the audience to take part in said emotion. The Key difference is that AGK is 2D, drawn, written. the GoT series is acted, we can see real human emotion on the actors faces, we can hear the inflections in their voices. it will always have an advantage in conveying emotion over any drawn or written medium. So what I ask is that you have another go at the story with a more open mind. You said you dislike shonen series and I can respect that, I for example can only stand a very select few shoujo or horror series despite my attempts to appreciate them withtin their genre. At the end of the day we both stand at opposite ends of the spectrum and while I don't believe that AGk is the best manga ever I think it deserves a bit more credit than you are giving it. [/spoiler] |
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Kreion
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Are you kidding me? Kill La Kill's character design was average at best and poor at worst. There were a few stand out characters, but really there was nothing new on that front - they didn't even look interesting. Hell I'd go as far as to say that Ryouko's outfit looked clumsy rather than unique. I'm just going to stop her because your entire post just stinks of uninformed hate towards a genre you don't like. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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How nice of you 2 trolls to turn a simple thread about the character designs of a show into a verbal trash fest that belongs in some inner city high school cafeteria. Correction, middle school cafeteria. I swear the things people get riled up about amazes me. Personally I like the designs myself but I don't see a point in posting any further discussion since I figure the thread lock is incoming at warp 9.
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