Forum - View topicNEWS: Fan Translator Removes Final Fantasy Type-0 English Patch
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AsherFischell
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It sucks that they put so much time and effort in to their translation just to have to take it down. On the other hand, since this is the internet, their translation isn't going anywhere.
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Primus
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Streisand effect is building up right now. ANN never covered the fan translation's release, but Square Enix made news by removing it. Post-release this seems kind of like a pointless thing to do. The internet is like a hydra - you slash off one head and three come to replace it.
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shadowsythe13
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Please god there is vita version
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BGMaxie
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But yeah, this event really sucks. More for the patch removal, for the accusations and threats. Really I'd grow very disappointed if Square was involved in that crap somehow. Still Sky and their team are saviours, and as you claim, this patch won't die soon. With as many people around as possible the patch will live. |
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Spotlesseden
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well, this on internet already, so who care. this is the life of waste time doing illegal stuffs that won't even make you money. If it makes you money, why not. You don't really have the right to patch other people's game anyway. But i don't think posting about a english patch is illegal. I don't think SE can do anything about it. |
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wohdin
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It's out there, it's being played, it's widely available if you know where to look. Thankfully all their work has not gone to waste.
I swear to god, if SqEx tries to sue them for "damages", it will be the end of them for me. They put themselves in this position by not releasing the game internationally two years ago like they were supposed to. It's entirely their fault, and they don't get to place the blame onto someone else when they've been sitting around twiddling their thumbs for the past two years. |
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mistress_kisara
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Pffftt people would have pirated them anyway if they had released them on the psp. And stop with the self entitlement I don't why it's so hard for people to wait, the anime/ gaming companies has been spoiling you people too much. |
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BGMaxie
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Final Fantasy is a real brand all in itself and its name weights quite a lot, you can expect A LOT of people moving around when news of a new title of the series comes around. Type-0 has been the most AWAITED title in years of years after its release on Japan, and fan reception and movements are plenty, such as Operation Suzaku amongst others that even if unsuccessful in the final product, were still known and Square was aware of all of them. Then you'd get the usual "speeches" from executives and programmers alike that "built" expectations but resulted in 0 for years. They created a huge monster with fan anticipation being like this and they have any and all responsability to manage it. If they lost the opportunity, well TOO BAD, so sorry, but successful business comes with seizing the chances at the proper time not years later. Now they are going with the game after this long, could it work? Maybe, but if it does not go as expected, they have themselves to blame entirely. |
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whiskeyii
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I know there are some--mostly Nintendo--fan translations that have been allowed by their parent company to exist. The Fatal Frame for the Wii is one example, though I believe in that case, there was no way to emulate the game; purchase was a straight-up requirement.
For this one, you could certainly emulate the game, but the patchers seemed to encourage purchasing a copy. I'm not big on emulation, and I have no plans to own a PS4 OR an Xbox One. So for me, if I hadn't imported a copy and patched my own version, I would've just watched the official version on a Let's Play or something. At least this way, Square Enix got some money out of me. 
Shame for the translators though. I heard they actually got SE's okay on this, though? Way back when they started it? |
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Juno016
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I'm going to shape this up to just be an unfortunate case of fans vs. business. FF Type-0 was in heavy demand in the West in an age where nearly everything big was getting licensed and taken care of pretty quickly. Fans grew tired of waiting and a few fans who assumed it would never come over to the West based on educated assumption spent a ton of time and effort making the game accessible to the Western fans. They only finished and released the patch after the PSP became nearly obsolete as a system and things seemed pretty clearly in their favor, but then this happened. And as a fellow fan translator, I'm well aware of the risks that can put our hard work to the curb and I'm 99% sure they were, too. Square made the right business decision to shut the patch's direct distributor down, for sure. But they made the wrong business decision to wait this long to release it, and that's why the patch was made by fans.
I'm not going to argue legal vs. illegal in this situation, as the demand vs. supply ratio was clearly controversial for way too long, but it is what it is. And in the end, hopefully everyone wins. At the very least, it's rare that fan translation projects don't teach those who work on them some nice skills, technical or linguistic. The patch is out and, because this is the internet, it is available for those who wish to search for it. And for the casual fans who still want to play it on a main system, there are those plans in the works now, too. As for me, I already bought the game for my PSP when it came out in Japan. I'll be recommending the official release to anyone who owns a Vita when it's released, and probably suggest the fan patch to anyone who I know cannot purchase a Vita (a friend of mine was excited to have finally been able to afford a used PSP in-store just last month, and he's not alone in my offline group of poor, lower-middle-class friends who can't afford even a 50% off used 3DS in-store.). |
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cloud8100
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Vita release please
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mistress_kisara
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If you don't own a PS4/PSVita you can just BUY the japanese version and then use the fan translated patch. But people are too gaod damn lazy for this option.
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KidOblivion
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At the end of the day the translation was illegal. Period. We don't know why Square didn't put out the game earlier, but they are now.
Will we blame FUNimation for releasing Raildex late on Blu Ray, saying that fansubs are already available and get angry when FUNi takes them down? What about Yen Press for finally releasing the Index novels? We aren't entitled to just steal the game because we're upset a localization came out late, that's not how things work. This entitled attitude is a huge factor of the reasoning why Bandai got shut down. Support official releases. |
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#Growlynch
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I'm not sur about that. As far as I understand this translation was made for legal copies of the game. This isn't translators' fault that somebody pirated the game. |
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whiskeyii
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True, but they are undeniably cutting into a potential market. I, for one, would not purchase a game twice if I understood it well enough the first time.
Btw, what's with all the Vita stuff? I thought this game was for PS4/Xbox One only? Or can you play PS4 games on the Vita now? |
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