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Stark700
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 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:00 pm
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I wonder if this will be serialized in the future.
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Gyt Kaliba
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:08 pm
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Oh cool, so he is still around. I really wish Psyren had done better, I really liked it. It managed to end on a pretty good note, all things considered too. How the heck it never got an anime is beyond me.
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yappers4
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:19 pm
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| Gyt Kaliba wrote: | | Oh cool, so he is still around. I really wish Psyren had done better, I really liked it. It managed to end on a pretty good note, all things considered too. How the heck it never got an anime is beyond me. |
I've noticed a trend that manga cancelled in Weekly Shounen Jump will not receive an anime or a second season, etc. So far, the only exceptions are Muhyo & Roji and Neuro Nagami, both mangas which were never cancelled though only one received one anime season.
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Gyt Kaliba
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:41 pm
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| yappers4 wrote: | | I've noticed a trend that manga cancelled in Weekly Shounen Jump will not receive an anime or a second season, etc. So far, the only exceptions are Muhyo & Roji and Neuro Nagami, both mangas which were never cancelled though only one received one anime season. |
True enough, and that would make perfect business sense - why risk putting money into an anime of a manga that didn't make it? Still sucks for the good titles that fall under the radar like this one though.
'Course, then there's still the total anomalies, like Buso Renkin, which did manage to get an anime somehow or another, despite never taking off really as a manga. I'm happy it did of course, but it's still strange.
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yappers4
Joined: 28 Apr 2011
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:48 pm
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| Gyt Kaliba wrote: |
| yappers4 wrote: | | I've noticed a trend that manga cancelled in Weekly Shounen Jump will not receive an anime or a second season, etc. So far, the only exceptions are Muhyo & Roji and Neuro Nagami, both mangas which were never cancelled though only one received one anime season. |
True enough, and that would make perfect business sense - why risk putting money into an anime of a manga that didn't make it? Still sucks for the good titles that fall under the radar like this one though.
'Course, then there's still the total anomalies, like Buso Renkin, which did manage to get an anime somehow or another, despite never taking off really as a manga. I'm happy it did of course, but it's still strange. |
Speaking of, I'd really love it if Embalming would be made into an anime, or at least Viz will pick up the manga series.
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iamthevastuniverse
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:30 am
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Hell yeah! I'm still annoyed to this day that Psyren never had the chance to be seen in animated form maybe this series will gather steam and become what Psyren never had the chance to be.
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Thatguy3331
Joined: 18 Feb 2012
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:18 am
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I have literally no expectation of this being a replacement to psyren but hopefully it's an enjoyable one shot in it's own right that'll give the mangaka some work.
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richard.s.eze
Joined: 23 Apr 2014
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:43 am
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Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto
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Spotlesseden
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:43 am
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| richard.s.eze wrote: | | Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto |
wsj doesn't cancel manga that sell great.(500k+) The mangaka can end those themself.
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lossthief
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:20 am
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Series in WSJ generally don't stick around unless they do decently in the weekly reader popularity rankings in Japan. I don't remember how Hungry Joker did in the rankings, but I imagine if it got cancelled within a year of its serialization, it didn't do well.
As for the US Jump, I'm happy to see more One-shots being included. My subscription is worth it week-to-week for me just for Nisekoi, One Piece, and One-Punch Man, but I'm always happy to see new extras being included.
I'm also curious to see if any new series are going to be added to the US jump. We've had some bad luck so far between Barrage, Cross*Manage, and Stealth Symphony all getting axed in under a year, but I still love seeing new series as they debut.
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bigivel
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:39 pm
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| Gyt Kaliba wrote: |
| yappers4 wrote: | | I've noticed a trend that manga cancelled in Weekly Shounen Jump will not receive an anime or a second season, etc. So far, the only exceptions are Muhyo & Roji and Neuro Nagami, both mangas which were never cancelled though only one received one anime season. |
True enough, and that would make perfect business sense - why risk putting money into an anime of a manga that didn't make it? Still sucks for the good titles that fall under the radar like this one though.
'Course, then there's still the total anomalies, like Buso Renkin, which did manage to get an anime somehow or another, despite never taking off really as a manga. I'm happy it did of course, but it's still strange. |
Buso Renkin was made by the author of Samurai X(Rurouni Kenshin) and while in the magazine it had horrible rankings, the volumes sold very well. Like Beelzebub and Nurarihyon no Mago it wasn't really "cancelled" but transferred to another magazine less known, where it had some more chapters.
Buso Renkin got lucky because after some time after his cancellation Xebec studios was still interested in making an anime out of it.
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richard.s.eze
Joined: 23 Apr 2014
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:50 pm
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| Spotlesseden wrote: |
| richard.s.eze wrote: | | Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto |
wsj doesn't cancel manga that sell great.(500k+) The mangaka can end those themself. |
If u let me prove it to u i can change ur mind u want it
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bigivel
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 12:55 pm
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| richard.s.eze wrote: | | Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto |
Hungry joker sold great? LOL, LOL, LOL. Hungry Joker sold terrible and got terrible rankings in the magazine. Please, don't fool yourself!
None of the volumes ranked in the Oricon rankings! The rankings at the time had a threshold around 15k copies sold, meaning it sold less than that. Even Cross Manage sold better than Hungry Joker, selling around 18k, and so appearing in the Oricon rankings.
Hungry Joker was lucky that it took half a year, 24 chapters, in the magazine!
Hungry Joker rankings(The rankings normally go from 1st place to 17th or 18th, but depending in the week they can have more titles or less titles ranked)
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1 - 1º (1st chapter Cover page)
2 - 8º (2nd chapter Color Page)
3 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
4 - 9º (Not ranked yet)
5 - 8º (Not ranked yet)
6 - 10º (Not ranked yet)
7 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
8 - 13º (First rank. This rank is for the 1st chapter, the next rank for the 2nd and so forth)
9 - 11º
10 - 9º
11 - 14º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
12 - 11º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 14 titles ranked this week)
13 - 16º (Last place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
14 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
15 - 18º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. 19 titles ranked this week)
16 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
17 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
18 - 16º (Last Place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
19 - 12º
20 - 12º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
21 - 17º (Last Place)
22 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
23 - 18º (Last Place)
24 - 17º (Last Place, Last chapter) |
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richard.s.eze
Joined: 23 Apr 2014
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:41 pm
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| bigivel wrote: |
| richard.s.eze wrote: | | Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto |
Hungry joker sold great? LOL, LOL, LOL. Hungry Joker sold terrible and got terrible rankings in the magazine. Please, don't fool yourself!
None of the volumes ranked in the Oricon rankings! The rankings at the time had a threshold around 15k copies sold, meaning it sold less than that. Even Cross Manage sold better than Hungry Joker, selling around 18k, and so appearing in the Oricon rankings.
Screw the rankings toriko has higher rankings then bleach but bleach still sales more just read hungry joker
Hungry Joker was lucky that it took half a year, 24 chapters, in the magazine!
Hungry Joker rankings(The rankings normally go from 1st place to 17th or 18th, but depending in the week they can have more titles or less titles ranked)
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1 - 1º (1st chapter Cover page)
2 - 8º (2nd chapter Color Page)
3 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
4 - 9º (Not ranked yet)
5 - 8º (Not ranked yet)
6 - 10º (Not ranked yet)
7 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
8 - 13º (First rank. This rank is for the 1st chapter, the next rank for the 2nd and so forth)
9 - 11º
10 - 9º
11 - 14º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
12 - 11º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 14 titles ranked this week)
13 - 16º (Last place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
14 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
15 - 18º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. 19 titles ranked this week)
16 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
17 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
18 - 16º (Last Place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
19 - 12º
20 - 12º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
21 - 17º (Last Place)
22 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
23 - 18º (Last Place)
24 - 17º (Last Place, Last chapter) |
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bigivel
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:13 pm
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| richard.s.eze wrote: |
| bigivel wrote: |
| richard.s.eze wrote: | | Hungry joker was a manga that was selling great but wsj cancelled it u guys should check it, out of all manga it deserve an anime it was the next naruto |
Hungry joker sold great? LOL, LOL, LOL. Hungry Joker sold terrible and got terrible rankings in the magazine. Please, don't fool yourself!
None of the volumes ranked in the Oricon rankings! The rankings at the time had a threshold around 15k copies sold, meaning it sold less than that. Even Cross Manage sold better than Hungry Joker, selling around 18k, and so appearing in the Oricon rankings.
Screw the rankings toriko has higher rankings then bleach but bleach still sales more just read hungry joker
Hungry Joker was lucky that it took half a year, 24 chapters, in the magazine!
Hungry Joker rankings(The rankings normally go from 1st place to 17th or 18th, but depending in the week they can have more titles or less titles ranked)
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1 - 1º (1st chapter Cover page)
2 - 8º (2nd chapter Color Page)
3 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
4 - 9º (Not ranked yet)
5 - 8º (Not ranked yet)
6 - 10º (Not ranked yet)
7 - 6º (Not ranked yet)
8 - 13º (First rank. This rank is for the 1st chapter, the next rank for the 2nd and so forth)
9 - 11º
10 - 9º
11 - 14º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
12 - 11º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 14 titles ranked this week)
13 - 16º (Last place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
14 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
15 - 18º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. 19 titles ranked this week)
16 - 15º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
17 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
18 - 16º (Last Place. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
19 - 12º
20 - 12º (Bottom 5 of the ranking. Only 16 titles ranked this week)
21 - 17º (Last Place)
22 - 16º (Bottom 5 of the ranking)
23 - 18º (Last Place)
24 - 17º (Last Place, Last chapter) |
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I read all of Hungry Joker chapters, and is nothing as special has what you're saying. In reality Hungry Joker has an immensely amount of problems.
I read Toriko and Bleach an being following their situation and it has nothing to do with Hungry Joker.
Bleach from 2004 to 2010, 7 entire years, was constantly 3rd best ranked manga in the magazine. Add the anime popularity and you have a huge franchise with a huge fanbase.
Is not surprisingly that Bleach in average has 800k copies sold per volume.
Now, Bleach declined in the rankings of the magazine, given the huge decline of quality in the series, but the fans that bought the previous volumes still keep buying them. True be told, while the average of volumes sold of Bleach is 800k, right now, each volume is only able, at best, to sell around 600k. Meaning that 200k(13 times more than what Hungry Joker volumes couldn't sell) buyers stopped buying.
Toriko has a different story. From 2008 to 2010 was ranking around 5º and 6º best place in the magazine. After that from 2011 to 2012, was 3rd best ranked manga in the magazine, but that place was stolen by Assassination Classroom in 2013 putting Toriko in 4th. Right now in 2014, Toriko rankings aren't that good and it will probably end being in 7th or 8th best ranked manga in the magazine. Is arguable but is also said that the Toriko anime wasn't that popular. It gave the volumes sales an incredible boost, but not comparable, and expected, to the big hitter like One Piece, Naruto and Bleach. Toriko before the anime was selling around 250k and after that started selling 500k copies per volume. So it doubled in sales.
Right now, each Toriko volume sells around 450k copies per volume. So it may be said that it decreased 50k since the anime boost.
Hungry Joker has nothing to do with Bleach or Toriko, nor their difference in sales.
Hungry Joker ranked badly in the magazine, when the others ranked very well. Hungry Joker sold horrible, less than 15k, when the others sold more than 100k(Bleach 6 times, Toriko 4.5) and so very well. Hungry Joker was cancelled after half a year, Bleach is continuously running for 13 years and Toriko for 6 years.
Even Psyren had a better reception than Hungry Joker, both in the magazine, where it ran for 2 years, and the volume sales, where for the little information I have about it I believe, it was around 100k.
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