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INTEREST: Japanese Fans Weigh In On the Trickiest "Golden Age Shonen Jump" Manga to Adapt




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FenixFiesta



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:53 pm Reply with quote
It looks like with some of the popular choices it is... well a popularity contest over a "which series do you think would be too impractical to go Live Action?"

Every sports series would be comparatively simple to make in live action in comparison to a show with talking cats, magic, and looking for orange spheres to summon a wish dragon.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:12 pm Reply with quote
You can adapt Dragon Ball. Look at The Forbidden Kingdom. I think Kinnikuman and Fist of the North Star are possible, too. Though a live-action Brocken, Jr. might cause even more problems than his anime counterpart. And that fight scene in Man of Steel was totally the closest to a good LA Hokuto No Ken movie. As for Captain Tsubasa, well, Stephen Chow said he used it as an inspiration for Shaolin Soccer, so does that count? Wink Also, everything else seems pretty damned easy. The toughies are Bleach and Naruto, but they're not part of the 'Golden Age', so...
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Animeking1108



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:48 pm Reply with quote
"Dragon Ball" and "Fist of the North Star" should be disqualified since we already saw live-action attempts. I do think "Dragon Ball" can work if it's put into the right hands. "Man of Steel" showed that a DBZ can translate into live action. We just need somebody that cares about the source material and good actors. Remember, there was a time when we thought American comic books and "Lord of the Rings" could never be done right.

If this wasn't exclusively Golden Age, "One Piece" would also be up there. Not so much because it's unfilmable, but because the story arcs would be too long to make into one movie. Hell, the Alabasta movie had to cut out Ace's introduction.
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Although I haven't read it, I'd assume Slam Dunk would be possible as a j-drama. I mean, there's no supernatural element to it. It's all comedy and drama.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:14 pm Reply with quote
Freakmasta wrote:
Although I haven't read it, I'd assume Slam Dunk would be possible as a j-drama. I mean, there's no supernatural element to it. It's all comedy and drama.


Even if it was an over-the-top sports series it could still be done in live-action pretty well. A great example of over-the-top sports being done well in live-action TV would be Team Astro, a 2005 adaptation of the 70s Jump baseball manga. It was insanely OTT, moreso than anything that gets made even today, but the live-action adaptation was excellent & maintained the OTT nature perfectly.
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Fedora-san



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:15 pm Reply with quote
FenixFiesta wrote:
Every sports series would be comparatively simple to make in live action in comparison to a show with talking cats, magic, and looking for orange spheres to summon a wish dragon.


A lot of sports series are basically a fighting shonen series but with sports instead of ninjas or pirates. Saying anime like Kinnikuman or Yu-Gi-Oh are just wrestling and card games so they'd be easy to adapt is deceptive

Animeking1108 wrote:
Remember, there was a time when we thought American comic books and "Lord of the Rings" could never be done right.


When did we stop thinking that, exactly? No comic book movie I've seen has matched the comics. People can complain about Schumacher as much as they want, but at least his movies never felt like he was constantly apologizing for making a comic book movie. Nolan's Batman, Smallville, Arrow are and the upcoming Gotham are all just shallow superhero dramas desperately trying to be taken seriously and abandon their comic book roots. Marvel's movies aren't much better when they constantly throw away villains because it would be "too unrealistic".

Whether that's limitations of cinema or audience's lack of tolerance for absurdity, comic movies still have a long ways to go.
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Animeking1108



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:48 pm Reply with quote
Fedora-san wrote:
FenixFiesta wrote:
Every sports series would be comparatively simple to make in live action in comparison to a show with talking cats, magic, and looking for orange spheres to summon a wish dragon.


A lot of sports series are basically a fighting shonen series but with sports instead of ninjas or pirates. Saying anime like Kinnikuman or Yu-Gi-Oh are just wrestling and card games so they'd be easy to adapt is deceptive

Animeking1108 wrote:
Remember, there was a time when we thought American comic books and "Lord of the Rings" could never be done right.


When did we stop thinking that, exactly? No comic book movie I've seen has matched the comics. People can complain about Schumacher as much as they want, but at least his movies never felt like he was constantly apologizing for making a comic book movie. Nolan's Batman, Smallville, Arrow are and the upcoming Gotham are all just shallow superhero dramas desperately trying to be taken seriously and abandon their comic book roots. Marvel's movies aren't much better when they constantly throw away villains because it would be "too unrealistic".

Whether that's limitations of cinema or audience's lack of tolerance for absurdity, comic movies still have a long ways to go.


When has Marvel ever removed villains because of realism? Their highest grossing movie had a Norse god summoning an army of aliens and their latest hit had a talking raccoon and a tree-type Pokémon. It was Nolan's Batman that couldn't use supernatural villains.
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The irony...it's killing me!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:18 am Reply with quote
Kinnikumans the wrestling one right? I could see a live action one. Maybe Jojo as well (i'm picturing flamboyantly dressed delinquent looking guys with cgi Stands that look like the CGI Ryuk in the live Death Note movies while ACDC or Iron Maiden plays in the background. Cheap, but campy enough to fit Jojo's tone) Yugioh seems like a difficult one to adapt well into love action. More recent ones, Bobobo and To Love Ru seem tricky to adapt too. Black Cat could be cool though.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:10 am Reply with quote
I don't know if it is better or worse for a live action Manga/Anime film from japan as opposed to Hollywood.

Pluses
* The over the top action and acting looks more natural
* The original creators can work on them, ie Patlabor
* Nothing is localised

Minuses
* Terrible CG and Effects
* The actors look less like the characters they are portraying than the
western actors.
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