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REVIEW: Sword Art Online Novel 3


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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 12:30 pm Reply with quote
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There is a small piece of me that wishes that Reki Kawahara had simply stopped writing after the first book and left Sword Art Online a stand-alone novel.


Nah, Sword Art Online absolutely deserves to be a series. It's too bad Kawahara didn't give us that series. The premise could easily have supported another dozen books about the increasingly desperate attempt to clear the game even as the difficulty ramps up. But no, Gary Stu had to resolve the plot just when things were getting interesting.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 2:10 pm Reply with quote
Imouto route. All the way.
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Utsuro no Hako wrote:
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There is a small piece of me that wishes that Reki Kawahara had simply stopped writing after the first book and left Sword Art Online a stand-alone novel.


Nah, Sword Art Online absolutely deserves to be a series. It's too bad Kawahara didn't give us that series. The premise could easily have supported another dozen books about the increasingly desperate attempt to clear the game even as the difficulty ramps up. But no, Gary Stu had to resolve the plot just when things were getting interesting.


I misunderstood the beginning part of your comment and it almost made me choke lol, but I finished it and I completely agree. The premise of the original book was engaging but killed over time with poor characterization and writing. Had the creators of the anime taken solely the concept of Aincrad and made their own story/characters they could have really had something. Unfortunately, they went basically 1:1 with the novel which makes me wish the author hadn't written more than that first book.
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midori kou



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I'm not bringing in the newer written materials for SAO. I'm just going to talk about what's been laid out in the first three books.

I hear people talk about the first book being the best. However, because it was more-or-less a stand-alone book for Aincrad, it hardly developed anything. Asuna is briefly introduced and little is known about her.

I felt Kirito's and Asuna's relationship being forced after finally clicking through a traumatic experience, and we're stuck accepting it. By the end of the novel, it is established that both would do anything for each other. However, Asuna has much higher expectations for Kirito to surpass anything. (As mentioned during their last nights in the forest home.)

Now jumping to Fairy Dance, Asuna, being a damsel-in-distress, is something I can believe in based on her personality from the first 2 volumes. She had placed full faith in Kirito and lives only for him. That's what we know about her.

Because she wasn't as established in volumes 1 and 2, Kawahara could have easily created more content for her to focus how much of a warrior she is. Sadly, Fairy Dance, more like SAO as a whole, is narrated through first-person and loses on many opportunities like this.

I have to admit, Sugu has the better of character developments out of all the characters. Her confusion whether her feelings for Kazuto are romantic or not makes sense after learning details about her life. They seem more misguided than anything. This aspect, I thought, got lost in the animation.
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I admit that I'm actually a fraud when it comes to SAO because I don't really like the series (and openly admit that it's not good), but I bought the first novel. I just like the premise more than anything so I think that's why I can't completely let it go as a bad series.

As for this book I completely did not like this arc at all aside from the world. I've only seen the anime, but I wish we had gotten more information on the world and what it consisted of. I believe if it was more about the fun aspects of being in a virtual world rather than a saving Asuna (and a secret love for your cousin/brother) arc it would have been a lot better.

I agree with this review completely. I also thought to myself while watching (the anime), "They don't die so why do I care at all about this?" lol. And I don't know if this is in the book, but I also hated that pretty much ALL the girls were in love with Kirito and always hung themselves on him and he lets them! The whole arc is about saving Asuna (his love), but Kirito doesn't mind being involved in a harem along the way lol.
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The Fairy Dance arc in the anime was garbage.
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GrayArchon



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KENZICHI wrote:
And I don't know if this is in the book, but I also hated that pretty much ALL the girls were in love with Kirito and always hung themselves on him and he lets them! The whole arc is about saving Asuna (his love), but Kirito doesn't mind being involved in a harem along the way lol.


List of girls "in love" with Kirito that were involved in saving Asuna:

Suguha

Not much of a harem there.
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Not sure why people keep bringing up Asuna's status as somehow insulting to her characterization. There's times Kirito himself was in desperate need of Asuna, essentially having his life saved by her several times in the first arc and it's not a bad thing for him to be able to do that for her this arc. It just seems people are so overly touchy when there's a 'save the princess' scenario, it just triggers people to crazy heights. There's no need to panic in regards to Asuna as a powerful character. She's still as capable and powerful as ever. But sometimes characters can get stuck in situations they can't help themselves in. And that goes for Kirito as well. I just think people are so ready to jump on Kirito's throat when he does act heroic, the negative response goes to 11.

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KENZICHI



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:42 am Reply with quote
GrayArchon wrote:
KENZICHI wrote:
And I don't know if this is in the book, but I also hated that pretty much ALL the girls were in love with Kirito and always hung themselves on him and he lets them! The whole arc is about saving Asuna (his love), but Kirito doesn't mind being involved in a harem along the way lol.


List of girls "in love" with Kirito that were involved in saving Asuna:

Suguha

Not much of a harem there.


More like a 'crush' I should say.

And I just imagined all those girls hanging on him, one being that cat girl? Oh, okay.
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MeisterYM wrote:
Imouto route. All the way.


which personally i would have liked to have seen cause i definitely have no problem with the whole siblings / cousin relationships.


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Her crush on him is annoying, but it really seems to stem from her emotional isolation during his coma, so there is hope there.


which is the other point. while myself and other hardcore otakus would have liked that senario if it was possible without ruining the series, the majority of others dont ,and call it abnormal and call others who do have nothing against it creepy pervs.




though i would bet your ass that some of those people that disliked of that senario happening are reading fanfictions and h-doujins of it let alone a relationship with all three of them which have been more often.
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jr0904 wrote:


which is the other point. while myself and other hardcore otakus would have liked that senario if it was possible without ruining the series, the majority of others don't ,and call it abnormal and call others who do have nothing against it creepy pervs.


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were in any way a "creepy perv." It's fiction; you like what you like, and that's that. My issue with the relationship wasn't their genetic tie (no matter how close, and in an as-yet-unpublished review, I do take a series to task for taking the easy way out with the "cousins" thing), but that Sugu's emotions felt confused rather than genuine. I'd like to see her really be in love with someone instead of using her brother as an easy target.
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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:25 am Reply with quote
Shippoyasha wrote:
Not sure why people keep bringing up Asuna's status as somehow insulting to her characterization. There's times Kirito himself was in desperate need of Asuna, essentially having his life saved by her several times in the first arc and it's not a bad thing for him to be able to do that for her this arc. It just seems people are so overly touchy when there's a 'save the princess' scenario, it just triggers people to crazy heights.


Kirito wasn't trapped in a rape cage for ten episodes straight, subjected to tentacle molestation and fought over like a prize.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 11:34 am Reply with quote
Princess_Irene wrote:
jr0904 wrote:


which is the other point. while myself and other hardcore otakus would have liked that senario if it was possible without ruining the series, the majority of others don't ,and call it abnormal and call others who do have nothing against it creepy pervs.


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you were in any way a "creepy perv." It's fiction; you like what you like, and that's that. My issue with the relationship wasn't their genetic tie (no matter how close, and in an as-yet-unpublished review, I do take a series to task for taking the easy way out with the "cousins" thing), but that Sugu's emotions felt confused rather than genuine. I'd like to see her really be in love with someone instead of using her brother as an easy target.


well i didn't see any hint that she had confusing feelings for kazuto on whether it was a crush or more. but it definitely showed later on that those feelings were in deed much deeper than that. especially after finding out who kirito was. of course i definitely would have loved to have seen him get his happily ever after with asuna and it was the right call to make, though even i admit i would have been intrigued of that relationship considering it might be possible he too could have those feelings for her hidden inside when they were small which is why he isolated himself from her when he found out their actually cousins.

and yea, i kinda had that feeling that the author was trying to get the easy way out by having them as cousins instead of siblings. but its as i said, whether its in a series or real life , personally i definitely dont have a problem with it since i am a very open minded person.

Utsuro no Hako wrote:
Shippoyasha wrote:
Not sure why people keep bringing up Asuna's status as somehow insulting to her characterization. There's times Kirito himself was in desperate need of Asuna, essentially having his life saved by her several times in the first arc and it's not a bad thing for him to be able to do that for her this arc. It just seems people are so overly touchy when there's a 'save the princess' scenario, it just triggers people to crazy heights.


Kirito wasn't trapped in a rape cage for ten episodes straight, subjected to tentacle molestation and fought over like a prize.


which is probably the reason why that guy is definitely villain of the series. i could have easily had buyed it if it turned out he was behind the whole aincrad arc instead of kayaba.

all that's left for that guy was to have jun ( Japanese lelouch ) & bosch (eng lelouch ) to had voiced him instead and he definitely would have been a memorable villain.
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Asuna being turned into a Damsel in distress combined with Suguha took what was a series I liked ran whatever enthusiasm I had for the series and ran it into the ground and buried it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:27 pm Reply with quote
So villains doing villainous things is bad now?

If that kind of stuff irks that much, then go watch fluffier stuff.
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