Forum - View topicNEWS: The IDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls, KanColle CDs Reach #4, #6 on Weekly Oricon
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Sunny milk
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A bit sad that even a horrible anime adaptation doesn't affect Cinderella Girls being popular.
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Hoppy800
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I'm glad the CDs are selling, Idolm@ster Cinderella Girls has nice music worth buying and very interesting drama skits on many of those CDs, but the anime is disappointing and borders on bad. The profits from the music should be used to redo it with a different main cast or with it not focusing mostly on Mio, Uzuki, and Rin. I'm also glad that Nina's CD has sold over 15k as of today.
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FenixFiesta
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What exactly were you expecting to feel so "disappointed", the only other show that has a similar background in regards to being mainly a game focused material being propped up by the fandom would be Kancolle and in referring to the anime adaptations ICG isn't weaker in regards to narrative unless you are demanding the ICG set up to also be about magical transforming girls as well. Last edited by FenixFiesta on Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:18 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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WANNFH
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"Fubuki" is really in the nice place for the debut single.
And that's good - it's the really catchy and written specifically for the Kancolle, and it's really well suited as the limited time BGM in the game event recently. |
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Hoppy800
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They should've went the Girlfriend (Kari) route with this or picked a better cast. The main cast just isn't suited for this anime, the characters in the 1st Idolm@ster were fun, exciting, and dramatic at times. They would fare better in that kind of anime where there is less character development and drama, and the anime could have an insert song from one of the characters that were focused on in that episode at the end. |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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I was under the impression that the new iDOLM@STER anime was being very well received. In any case the OP+ED single CD had an event ticket for an event that happened 2 days after release (not sure if I've ever heard of an event ticket being included in a CD case before) which no doubt drove up it's sales massively. The regular average for iDOLM@STER singles is more something like 15K. This is why you see things like the iDOLM@STER disc dropping below the Kancolle ones after Saturday in Oricon rankings.
One thing that's telling to me is that the OP to Love Live 2nd Season did something like 66K in it's first week without an event ticket and it's incidental singles routinely average around 40K-50K as well, sometimes 60K if it's the popular BiBi unit. I think Love Live is just kind of more popular than iDOLM@STER these days in general though, which early on in it's existence when it was lucky to average 5K disc sales nobody would have ever predicted could have happened. Also with the event to bolster sales of the iDOLM@STER disc already long over I wonder what kind of tail it's going to have and if it'll be at all comparable to the ones that Love Live usually gets. At the moment it's kind of looking like the popular Kantai Collection discs are going to have the longer tails. |
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Hoppy800
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It's doing ok in preorder rankings, the problem is that it's nowhere near as as good as the 1st Idolm@ster although at least 1 of the episodes got 90% ratings on NND. Kancolle is just dominating this season in preorders (however it's all over the place in NND ratings) but that was expected, now if this popularity can translate into good game sales of Kancolle Kai, then all is well. |
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WANNFH
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From this point it's not sounds like the TV series is "well received", but more like the production staff went to the cheating marketing ploy with the tickets to the event of the popular franchise. Something like that has only recently cranked in the first BD of the second Love Live season, which is going to the really extreme level of sales from this. |
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Sunny milk
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The anime sales aren't exactly amazing by the looks of it, won't even get 1/10th of the disc sales Love Live had.
And very well deserved, too. You don't just go with the Cinderella Girls project, and only appeal to the three starter girls' fans, while spitting on any of the other girls' fans, even the ones who made it all so popular among the hardcore fanbase to begin with. |
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FenixFiesta
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Ignoring the part that "my favorite girl isn't getting the spotlight" what is so "bad" about ICG. I more than get the overly otaku fans that spend way too much on DVD/bluray complaining with there wallet that there "waifu isn't on the screen enough, screw this series", however that does not mean the series has a narrative that was written in a "craptacular manner". |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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Well Cinderella Girls preorders are primarily going to the G4U package released by Bandai Namco Games, but you'll have to check the video game rankings charts by 4gamer for those numbers because Oricon doesn't track those sorts of releases. Of course if it really comes down to it and it's that important to the publishers, between Bandai and Aniplex I'm fairly certain that they can find the right combination of extras to add to the BD package like they did with the iDOLM@STER movie which was on track to sell well less than half of what it did before they started adding more and more swag to the package in the final month leading up to it's release. Does that make the anime any better for fans, of course not, but that almost seems beside the point to these big producers these days. As for the popularity thing, after some people clarified what they meant I understand a lot better. I'm no expert on this sort of thing myself, but it seems like the only remotely popular characters from the anime right now are 1st the Producer character with the weirdly deep and monotonous voice by far and away, and a distant second Rin Shibuya and this will show in ways from the amount of pixiv art, to voting billboards at retailers in Japan to online poll results like this one. Everyone else after that seems even more significantly less noted, recognized and popular by about the factor of Rin to Producer, which was exactly the concern some fans had going in to this show.....the character recognition part, not a made up male character being the most popular character in an idol show. To me if you're trying to make an anime to promote a character brand and potentially introduce new fans to the cast and build their recognition up and yet by far the most noted character has been a creepy manager dude who isn't even in the games that I'm aware of and is voiced by a total amateur voice actor (and having seen the first episode first hand it really shows) and the idol that was already the most recognizable cast member (at least going by amount of pixiv art) then something has gone horribly horribly wrong. I can't imagine almost a third of the way into the shows run that this was what was intended. Anyway to my knowledge this never happened with something like Love Live. Some characters are obviously still more popular than others like Maki Nishikino, but it seems like every one of them gets recognized to at least some degree in voter polls, fanart etc. and it's not just a total slam dunk for one of them. |
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FenixFiesta
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Ok, if we go with the logic that "this anime is supposed to sell 'toys' (read cds/products/any tangible merch)" then sure I can give in and say that so far ICG has not been going the route that would overtly sell products. That said, there is a saying I recall when making media productions that goes something along the lines of "you are only as good as your NEXT project", now if certarin posters are correct about ICG and it doesn't get in a follow up such as a large scale console release or to go with similar media some sort of movie release this will not be the first time Idolmaster franchise to have taken a noticeable miss step. (remember Dearly Stars?, and not surprised if you don't) |
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mewpudding101
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As someone who bought the Imas CD, I can tell you it wasn't a ticket, it as a code to apply to attend. My CD came a day late and I couldn't apply. |
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Ejc
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That's what people mean when they say "event ticket". It is shorter to call it that, than to call it an "event ticket priority application", which is a serial code to go into a lottery to win a place at the event. That was certainly the case for Love Live! Vol.7, Love Live! S2 Vol.1 and Vol.7. Not every applicant won a place at the Love Live! events (especially the 5th concert at the SSA) so they had to go through other means to watch the event, such as at theatres, etc. Not quite sure about the Fan Meeting Tour later on this year, but there were still some clamoring to get copies of Vol.7 to apply in the 2nd lottery to hopefully win a place at their desired location, since they were unsuccessful in the 1st lottery. |
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Sunny milk
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That's pretty much what I meant by the show killing Rika's/Miria's popularity. |
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