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wastrel
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 Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:20 pm
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It would be Nico's home. Poor Nico.
Still, I've always found it interesting how quickly (by comparison to my impressions of how it's done here in the U.S.) the Japanese seem to tear down buildings. There's probably a graduate thesis in there somewhere about how social attitudes towards the impermanence of such things is quite different in Japan, and how it effects things like building codes and materials used.
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Blatch
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:30 pm
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And I literally started watching Love Live! yesterday. Is this an early-onset effect of the "bringer of doom" status buff?
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:31 pm
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For our world, it makes sense. I wonder if this will get written into the anime though?
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:48 pm
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Poor Nico-chan...Soon she's going to be left without a home. 
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:00 pm
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Retrofit that place immediately.
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:13 pm
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Love Live here is now Love Dead. Another is the people that work/live have to relocate elsewhere.
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Jajanken
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:44 pm
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Haha too funny
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enurtsol
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:26 pm
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It's just a regular condo, guys.
| wastrel wrote: | |
Still, I've always found it interesting how quickly (by comparison to my impressions of how it's done here in the U.S.) the Japanese seem to tear down buildings. There's probably a graduate thesis in there somewhere about how social attitudes towards the impermanence of such things is quite different in Japan, and how it effects things like building codes and materials used. |
Well, this condo is more for safety concerns.
But yes, Japanese value land, but they prefer to build new homes rather than "live in" a pre-owned house that somebody else built, so the resale value of a house there depreciate.
Cultural lessons in housing and construction
- “The built environment is treated much differently in Japanese culture than in the West,” says De Groot, president of spray foam insulation manufacturer Icynene Asia-Pacific and member of the EBC Construction Committee. “Buildings here are meant to serve the people who use them and have no — or very little — sentimental or intrinsic value on their own. Once their usefulness no longer justifies their upkeep, they are replaced.”
The reason for this is that the Japanese have historically used wood for building — making homes and other structures that are vulnerable to earthquakes, typhoons, floods and fires. It’s one reason that, even today, Japanese homes have a shorter lifespan than those in places such as Europe, where many last hundreds of years.
“The way it’s expressed today in the housing industry is that you look at the average life cycle of a house being 25 years — basically, from brand new to zero value,” says De Groot. “It’s completely opposite to the way most [Western] people think about what should happen in housing values. An older house, if maintained, should increase in value. It’s completely counter-intuitive to the way people think about real estate value.”
De Groot does add that many Japanese are now realising the waste of constant rebuilding. And the government is also promoting construction of longer-lasting structures, including the notion of the “100-year house”. But the vast majority of new homes are still of the low-cost variety, or what De Groot calls “put it up now and we’ll worry about what it’s worth down the line”.
“I don’t think the thought that buildings are not permanent was a part of their culture,” De Groot adds, “but it certainly became part of their experience, which then informed the culture. Culture is really shaped by the environment. So much of the [Japanese] attitude to housing — and to buildings in general — is because of the environment they live in.”
Japan Is An Architect's Dream Market Because Homes Are Seen As Disposable
- The demand stems from the demolition rate of homes — half of all the homes in Japan are demolished before they are 38 years old.
Durability and quality of the homes is apparently not a factor either.
Alastair Townsend, a British-American architect living in Japan, is "perplexed" by the housing scenario there.
"The houses that are built today exceed the quality of just about any other country in the world, at least for timber buildings. So there's really no reason that they should drop in value and be demolished," he said.
It is the culture and mentality towards the home in Japan that has created the environment ripe for architectural redesigns and customization.
That's great for creatives, but economists argue that mentality is harmful to the country.
Richard Koo, chief economist at the Nomura Research Institute, argues the unnecessary demolition is a waste of precious capital in a paper titled, "Obstacles to Affluence: Thoughts on Japanese Housing."
Japan's disposable home culture is an environmental and financial headache
- Fifteen years after being built the average home in Japan is worth nothing, creating a perverse market where construction is booming but housing barely increases
"It's a direct contrast to, for example, western Europe, where many of the most desirable buildings are 200 years old," notes Alastair Townsend, a British architect living and working in Japan. "It's not environmentally sustainable but also not financially sustainable. People work very hard to pay off a mortgage that's ultimately worth zero."
But today's buildings are demolished even though they could last. That, says Yoshida, has a cultural explanation: "The government updates the building code every 10 years due to the earthquake risk. Rather than spending money on expensive retrofitting, people just build new homes."
That's good news for the Japanese economy, but less good for homeowners themselves. They seem to accept the situation, however, often even neglecting to properly maintain a home they know is on track for demolition. But the real victim is the environment: replacing the entire housing stock within a generation means a whole lot of construction waste.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:49 pm
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| wastrel wrote: | | Still, I've always found it interesting how quickly (by comparison to my impressions of how it's done here in the U.S.) the Japanese seem to tear down buildings. There's probably a graduate thesis in there somewhere about how social attitudes towards the impermanence of such things is quite different in Japan, and how it effects things like building codes and materials used. |
Houses are often demolished after 25 years because the house itself is deemed worthless. The land still has value of course, but the house is removed and new depreciating house is built. I have idea why they do this, but it's common, they don't like buying older homes that others have lived in. These new homes are often made of cheap lightweight materials and tons of plastics, with modules and built-ins and such.
Then again, things will be much different for apartments and condos.
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XerneasYveltal
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:21 pm
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Nico feels fine. It's terrible.
But the idea of her moving next to Maki's place would make for a great story though. . . . . .
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Nozomi Tojo
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:30 pm
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Nico is the worst character in love live so i don't feel not one bit sad for her 
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Foxaika
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:53 pm
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Whoa Whoa whoa, take it back! 
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:20 pm
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It failed earthquake survival testing, and it's right next to a major emergency transport route.. It's better to demolish it under controlled conditions than to have it collapse across that route causing blockage and potentially more threat to lives in a major earthquake disaster. They will no doubt build another newer apartment building on that site with up to date earthquake survival ability. It will be a major headache for all those people who live in there, but if I found out that the building I was in could potentially collapse and kill me and my family I wouldn't want to live it it very much anyway. so it will be worth moving out to somewhere else with that in mind. After all Japan just happens to be the most geologically active region on the planet and Tokyo sits right on top of the junction of no less than 3 major plate faults. It's a no brainer for them.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:24 pm
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| XerneasYveltal wrote: | | Nico feels fine. It's terrible.
But the idea of her moving next to Maki's place would make for a great story though. . . . . . |
In that case, then there is hope for Nico yet...!  I can't see how Maki allowing Nico to live with her would be too much of a burden.
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firedragon54738
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:35 pm
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Well if Nico needs some place to live she can all way live with Maki she got room
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