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NEWS: DBZ: Kai, Akame ga KILL! Topped Saturday U.S. Cable Ratings


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Dessa



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:13 am Reply with quote
I'd be interested in knowing how much of the episode you have to watch for it to "count." Obviously, AgK got a good lead-in from DBZ Kai (even if a hundred thousand or so dropped out), but how many actually stayed for the for whole episode, rather than didn't turn off the TV immediately after DBZ?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:48 am Reply with quote
These are some pretty bad rating when compared to "real" tv but Nielsen ratings are absolute anyway and we are talking about a midnight slot so whatever.
That said i am surprised that Dragon Ball has been banished to such a graveyard shift. Shouldn't it be capable to have a presence during the day due to the name?
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:51 am Reply with quote
Last week's release of DBZ Freeza resurrection movie nice timing with Toonami DBZ Kai also in Frieza saga, helping the premiere of Akame ga Kill


residentgrigo wrote:

These are some pretty bad rating when compared to "real" tv but Nielsen ratings are absolute anyway and we are talking about a midnight slot so whatever.


Ratings are good or bad relative to competition in similar timeslots.


residentgrigo wrote:

That said i am surprised that Dragon Ball has been banished to such a graveyard shift. Shouldn't it be capable to have a presence during the day due to the name?


Anime on TV isn't as it used to be. Thru the Great Recession, networks became risk-averse and focused inwards.


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PusoPimp



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:00 am Reply with quote
residentgrigo wrote:
These are some pretty bad rating when compared to "real" tv but Nielsen ratings are absolute anyway and we are talking about a midnight slot so whatever.
That said i am surprised that Dragon Ball has been banished to such a graveyard shift. Shouldn't it be capable to have a presence during the day due to the name?


Well, the 2 Million viewers for Kai is pretty good even for "real" television, 1.8 Million for Akame Ga Kill would be alright even for a say Steven Universe new episode or something on Cartoon Network, the most even the last season of Aqua Teen has done for Adult Swim is 1.2 Mill. It doesn't get played earlier though because A. Toonami starts at midnight, adult swim plays reruns of it at 8 PM on Saturdays but that's as ear;y as Adult Swim starts.
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MarshalBanana



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 3:25 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
Anime on TV isn't as it used to be. Thru the Great Recession, networks became risk-averse and focused inwards.

According to Answerman, even back then they didn't like putting Anime on TV, it was only through huge amounts of money and a lot of pushing from publishers that we got what was on.

I would of thought Funimation however would of made sure it got on prime time, no matter the costs.
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Ushio



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 5:32 am Reply with quote
residentgrigo wrote:
These are some pretty bad rating when compared to "real" tv but Nielsen ratings are absolute anyway and we are talking about a midnight slot so whatever.
That said i am surprised that Dragon Ball has been banished to such a graveyard shift. Shouldn't it be capable to have a presence during the day due to the name?



Dragon ball kai 12:00AM 1.0 rating 2.02 million viewers

It had the highest 18-49 rating for any cable program on Saturday and 5th highest viewers.
(http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/08/11/saturday-cable-ratings-dragon-ball-z-kai-tops-night-akame-ga-kill-mitchiko-hatchin-power-sword-art-online-mroe/446212/)

The same Saturday primetime broadcast ratings
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/08/09/tv-ratings-saturday-aquarius-up-boston-ems-down-hannibal-flat/445573/

And the Sunday
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/08/11/sunday-final-ratings-big-brother-adjusted-up-final-football-ratings-2/446426/
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:16 am Reply with quote
Dessa wrote:
I'd be interested in knowing how much of the episode you have to watch for it to "count." Obviously, AgK got a good lead-in from DBZ Kai (even if a hundred thousand or so dropped out), but how many actually stayed for the for whole episode, rather than didn't turn off the TV immediately after DBZ?


Not sure how much you know about how the ratings work, but it's done by survey. If you are selected, you fill out a booklet and mark both when the TV is just 'on' but no one is watching (i.e. for background noise) and then mark when you are watching TV. You include what channel you're watching and the name of the show. Everyone in the household fills one out so they know what age group watched what.

So to answer your question, if a person watches the first couple seconds of AgK because it was after Kai, unless they report it on the survey no one is the wiser. If they say, watched the first 10 minutes and then shut it off out of disinterest, and report it that way... I'm honestly not sure how that factors in.

I received one of these surveys a while back but didn't end up sending it in, because I don't have cable and they were very unclear about how to handle streaming media. They provide clear instructions on what the do for DVR'd shows, but I had to dig on their website for instructions for streaming, and by then I'd filled out a bunch of days wrong. Confused
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RikudoAkatsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:40 am Reply with quote
All the shows pull great ratings except one piece. Naruto shippuden always pulls good ratings but then one piece comes and ruins it , people always leave the one piece block and come back to watch AoT.
Drop one piece already a replace it with a series that isn't garbage.
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Sunny milk



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:47 am Reply with quote
I don't know what I should say about the audience, when a kid orientated shounen show is the most popular among adults...
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maoyen



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:00 am Reply with quote
And to think, this all started as a practical joke... I wonder why everyone's tuning out after the first two shows?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:34 am Reply with quote
RikudoAkatsuki wrote:
All the shows pull great ratings except one piece. Naruto shippuden always pulls good ratings but then one piece comes and ruins it , people always leave the one piece block and come back to watch AoT.


One Piece's ratings are above average for a show that comes on at 2 AM. At that time of night, airing even half an hour earlier can result in higher ratings because people are going to bed; when both shows were on 90 minutes earlier than they are now, their ratings tended to be very close, with One Piece beating Naruto as often as not.

As further proof of this, in the current lineup One Piece almost always beats Attack on Titan (this week was a rare exception) making AoT the lowest-rated show on the block, even though AoT had the highest ratings on Toonami when it aired at 11:30. The difference is obvious: most viewers are in bed by 3.
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RikudoAkatsuki



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:44 am Reply with quote
Wyvern wrote:
RikudoAkatsuki wrote:
All the shows pull great ratings except one piece. Naruto shippuden always pulls good ratings but then one piece comes and ruins it , people always leave the one piece block and come back to watch AoT.


One Piece's ratings are above average for a show that comes on at 2 AM. At that time of night, airing even half an hour earlier can result in higher ratings because people are going to bed; when both shows were on 90 minutes earlier than they are now, their ratings tended to be very close, with One Piece beating Naruto as often as not.

As further proof of this, in the current lineup One Piece almost always beats Attack on Titan (this week was a rare exception) making AoT the lowest-rated show on the block, even though AoT had the highest ratings on Toonami when it aired at 11:30. The difference is obvious: most viewers are in bed by 3.


One piece usually has the largest drop and this isn't the first time Aot has beat one piece in ratings even though it comes after. (Which is bad)

Naruto always has always pulled better ratings than one piece which can be proven with a Google search.

[Edit]: removed insults. Keep it nice. Errinundra.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 7:45 am Reply with quote
I would've have figured that a late-night cable show would pull in even higher (talking 10+ million) considering you could get away with more objectionable content. But then again, it is dependent on how many are actually up watching it at that time.
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lazydude500



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:00 am Reply with quote
A while back I read that the Nielsen rating system is flawed and outdated and yeah it kind of is.

There could be hundreds of thousands of fans watching a specific show but their viewership means nothing if they don't have a Nielsen box...

Factor in that more people are streaming their TV on their computers and phones; watching at times best suited for their daily life plus the slow declining death of broadcast television, ratings become more irrelevant with each passing year.

Wouldn't surprise me if someday the success of all TV series depends on how many hits the video gets online on an official site (or youtube channel) within the first 24 hours.
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WashuTakahashi



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:19 am Reply with quote
I wish I could stay up later and enjoy these shows, but when you usually clock out by 10pm, staying up until midnight is difficult, let alone any later than that. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that. Stinks that anime isn't the 6-midnight run it used to be in the good ol' days.
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