Forum - View topicINTEREST: High-Quality Fate/stay night Saber Dress and Armor Costs US$4,000
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AksaraKishou
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I saw the costume and wanted to buy it... then i remembered that i am a guy...
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KH91
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Thats pretty cool. If you can afford it...prosper.
If spoiler[Saber can away with being the opposite gender], you can, too. 
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Suncraft
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Looks awesome. Hopefully when it's sold there are some lit shots of the inside too, or maybe somewhere to get the design.
The dress can be made with some skill and time, but that armour is basically impossible to make on your own without some industry skill. Expensive, but probably worth the $4000 it'd take to buy. At least some could take $700 off the full price and just spend ten thousand hours making the dress instead of buying it. |
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AnimeAddict2014
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$4000.. not a small amount to waste
just pay a cosplayer to make one for you.. it's cheaper Last edited by AnimeAddict2014 on Mon Aug 24, 2015 5:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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enurtsol
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That's the cost of some wedding dress
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Lili-Hime
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Solution: get married in the saber costume! 
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FenixFiesta
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noice |
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jojothepunisher
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"Can only be worn by small girls"
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reanimator
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They look little better than what cosplayers can make, but it lacks artistic and character details of theater costumes. At least armor part should be all-metal with scratches and dents, not some spray painted plastic. For $4000, one would expect top notch quality theatrical/film grade costume and I just don't see it. It still screams "Cosplay!". Cospa is playing game with whole limited quantity/niche with relatively cheap materials. |
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enurtsol
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Would ya guys walk down the aisle in one? |
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FenixFiesta
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Can't disagree, but just such items still have a market, it might be annoying to find someone or a group that would be able to produce such a quality costume. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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As great as this dress of Saber is, many would find getting a skilled costume maker to produce it to be way cheaper than trying to buy it.
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partysensei
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Me to! things like this make me want to be a woman 
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Shikishiki
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Cosplayer, irregular commissioner, and former theater costume shop employee here! We've been chatting about this on twitter and I wanted to throw a few things out there.
In theater, we've got neat tricks for making things look cool from a distance, but this is arguably better made and sturdier than most theater costumes unless you're talking broadway or the Met. And if better? You're looking at a project more expensive than $4k. Plus, this is a cosplay costume. It's meant to be a direct replica. As for real metal, I actually laughed. Have you worn proper metal armor before? Even a cast aluminum chest set alone ended up over 20 lbs (watching him run was hilarious). A dress couldn't keep its shape under the weight of the side pieces. Not to mention many events ban large amounts of metal. Then taking into account travel and such, that's just hugely impractical from a cosplay standpoint. As for denting, honestly, it's much smarter to have a set that looks exactly like the figures. Someone could damage it themselves if they reeeeeally wanted, but you can't easily fix something damaged on purpose. The point is a direct recreation. If it were a one-off, your points would be reasonable, but this is a production model for many people to buy and wear.
Unfortunately that's where you're a little wrong outright. This isn't cheap material. Polyurethane resin is not cheap. The mold compound (silicone probably) is not cheap. Every single individual part of the armor requires its own mold. Molding the hand pieces alone (excluding the gauntlet) would probably run me about $40 in silicone. Now, apply that to the entire costume. Even before that, a professional was brought in to model and sculpt all those pieces. Prototyping is the worst. Now, for every single part that was molded, you now have to cast each piece, CLEAN each piece (resin dust everywhere), and paint, which tends to be a multiday process. The largest cost here, by far, is labor (note the huge price difference in gauntlets and leg pieces despite similar amounts of material; there are twice as many pieces to deal with in the hands). Once you've tried to do this stuff by yourself, you quickly begin to understand the price breakdown. The look is preference. This looks exactly like a figure was made lifesize to me, and I'd be willing to bet that's what they were going for. "Exact replication" is more important in Japanese cosplay than in its western counterpart, from direct observation and written pieces, so this kind of thing is right on target. ...Not to mention the fact that at least a few of these sets will be bought by mega fans to display on mannequins as life-size dolls. Again, gotta consider the audience. And as another note, if you wanted a hollywood grade "film ready" costume, you'd probably need to add at least another 0 to the asking price. I am so not kidding. (The Cinderella gown from the recent movie took multiple skilled laborers over 500 labor hours and a raw material cost of at least $15,000 just saying). I know $4000 seems like a ton of money, but it's still not "mass" produced; this set will require dozens of hours of skilled individual attention per kit. People will pay that much for ball jointed dolls for the same reason.
See, this is the kind of mindset that caused so many of the fantastic cosplay commissioners in the US to shut down. People want something for less than the work that goes into it. If you wanted a proper corsetted multilayer dress with undergarments and complete edge embroidery from someone who had the professional level skill and equipment to pull it off, you'd be lucky to pay only $700. I'd be iffy at that price considering this would easily run over 50 labor hours. And full resin armor? No one even takes commissions for full resin armor anymore because it's too expensive to make a one-off. I started cosplaying back before Chinese cosplay stores were a thing; multi-thousand dollar commissions were understood because you couldn't buy anything pre-made and you had to respect someone who had the skills to get the job done. Now it's like 'This Chinese laborer (who's making maybe $5/day) can make this costume (out of the absolute cheapest materials possible and not actually made to measure) for $100, why are you trying to charge $900?' It's an awful mindset that's caused hundreds of commissioners to waaaaay undersell themselves :\ Sure you can get something sturdily made out of decent material from a commissioner for $200, but you can't expect the same quality and details for that low of a price. Just because it's a costume doesn't mean you can expect someone to work for you below minimum wage, you know?
Make-up is magical! Become the waifu. |
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reanimator
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@Shikishiki
Thank you so much for wonderful explanation on theatrical costume. Since I don't know anything about costume making, so I thought Cospa was pulling leg when they offered their armor dress costume. I wore body armor before, but I never wore metal mold armor. Anyway, someone in Japan gotta be real hardcore to dress up in that outfit. |
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