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INTEREST: Unsympathetic Illustration of Refugee Sparks Uproar in Japan


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gtmvanity



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:28 pm Reply with quote
Can't agree more with the poster, sums the migrant crisis up pretty damn well.
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Godblack



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:30 pm Reply with quote
That's pretty funny.
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Spleen



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:39 pm Reply with quote
It's too weird to be actually offensive. It reads like something a 12 year old would produce in a History lesson to shock his left wing teacher.

The start of the text ("I want to live in safety. I want to lead a clean life. I want to eat delicious food") makes it sound like it's going to end "...is that too much to ask".
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Great Rumbler



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:40 pm Reply with quote
Portraying the people fleeing the extreme poverty, constant violence, and just outright insanity of Syria as greedy leeches that just want free stuff is pretty disgusting.
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Aquamine-Amarine



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:43 pm Reply with quote
Hungary and Japan have proved to be the only sane countries regarding this refugee crisis. You can't just let people barge into your country when you don't even know if they're legitimate refugees in need of some help, or potential ISIS fighters pretending to be refugees. The fact that some of these refugees appear to be fit, young men who can carry out terrorist attacks doesn't stop people from thinking that there might be a lot of unsavory people in that crowd.

If you're going to take refugees in, you MUST make sure that they're not affiliated with terrorist groups. Did everyone forget what happened in France earlier this year? There's a ton of Sharia no-go zones where these people think they can run their own mini government inside a country and not listen to the country's rules and laws. Um, no. You have to make sure the people you let in don't do things like this. It's very concerning that these people refuse to assimilate when they move to a different country.

Props to Abe for thinking about his country first and trying to take care of his own people. I wish our leader would do the same.
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Chrno2



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:47 pm Reply with quote
Wow. Well, I've been following various views on YT on their views on the situation. I mean they want the US to take in close to 10,000. Yet, no one from any of the Middle Eastern countries (aside from Turkey, as I was there and the guy was talking about them taking in refugees in the past) seems to want to take them in. There was word from the Dahli Lama that stated in so many words that the migrant problem is really the Middle East's problem. I'd had been following much of the craziness that was leading up to this point in Syria. This could be a continuation of the Arab Spring when Mubarak was exiled and Kaddafi...you know the rest. But the truth remains is that many countries don't want to allow such people into their territory because it's going to create an invitation to the wrong "types" hidden among those that are in real need. It's not really racist, it's a real touchy subject that is being painted as such. When you have politicians saying that they "have to take these people" instead of them doing it on their own that's a problem. The word is "you have to." And just because this person is a conservative doesn't means squat. You have people on the liberal spectrum that don't want this either. Because the ones that are saying this is racist would change their mind if the "they have to" ends up affecting them in some way. Sweden is already in a mess as it is and they have a very high PC environment that will affect you if you take offense. ?There was already a story put out about a young girl who was raped by a refugee and they didn't do anything about it. Just shut your mouth about it because you're racist if you think anything different.

I don't know what the hell is going on over their but the problem is both the people and their leaders, not to mention ours as well as others arming these resistance fighters. Every year it's a new cell left over from the last.


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FenixFiesta



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:53 pm Reply with quote
What is uglier, showing your xenophobia on your wrist or waiting for "when sh1t hits the fan" for when your societies true colors show up?

This isn't as much about Toshiko Hasumi being insensitive to the Syrian plight as it is showing that there is an ever present political cloud in Japan that is indeed xenophobic and certainly follows the mantra of "Japan is only for the Japanese".
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Merida



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:02 pm Reply with quote
Reading some of the previous comments makes me want to stay far, far away from this discussion, but i just need to ask: am i supposed to know this woman? Is she someone remotely "famous" or just some random woman with...um..."conservative" opinions?
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Blackiris_



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:05 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, it's very easy to say that "refugees or immigrants "just want to take our money" when you've had the luck to be born in a wealthy country. Most people forget, though, that these people didn't decide to be born in a poor, war-torn or politically instable country. Locking those people out just to protect your own wealth is selfish.

Japan will have to take accept more people from outside before long. The population is shrinking, the birth rates are heavily declining, the percentage of aged people is reaching a critical level and the country has still not really accepted that woman can be fully-fledged workers, too.

And guess what, when Japan direly needs people to care for the elderly and stuff, it certainly won't be educated and wealthy Westerners that are interested in doing these jobs.
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Tomibiki



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:11 pm Reply with quote
OH BOY, I just love it when people talk out the side of their mouths like this. Why are conservatives always trying to sound so edgy no matter where you find them? Anyway, the argument is ridiculous. It's like those folks who believe people want to live on welfare, when they could be working all these swell 80k a year gigs that nobody is taking. "Why live happily in whats totally a paradise when I can get my ass blown off trying to collect government handouts?!"
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Botan_TM



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:18 pm Reply with quote
Seriously that immigrant crisis even appear at ANN?

Refegees? Those people are mostly picky as hell, mostly of them are young men and all those war-free countries in Europe are not good enough for them, only Germany or Sweden. Europe should rescue Christian, Yazidism or Atheists from savages though.

At least Hungary acts like a sane country.
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Blackiris_



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:34 pm Reply with quote
Botan_TM wrote:
Those people are mostly picky as hell.


How many of them have you talked to, if I may ask?
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meruru



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:36 pm Reply with quote
You'd think by now I would stop being shocked and horrified by how callous and deaf people can be to the suffering of other people.
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Botan_TM



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:37 pm Reply with quote
Blackiris_ wrote:
Botan_TM wrote:
Those people are mostly picky as hell.


How many of them have you talked to, if I may ask?


Because there is no media and statistics, I have to talk with each one? Rolling Eyes

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/24/us-europe-migrants-austria-idUSKCN0RO12520150924

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Mikl-Leitner noted that hardly any applications for asylum were made in safe countries such as Croatia or Slovenia, which meant that migrants who passed through them were no longer seeking safety but rather wanted to choose the country with the most attractive economic situation.


Real refugees are dying without help in Middle East and Africa, those rich able to pay thousands of $ are coming to Germany and one of them is getting moneys, which could help several people on a place.
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Utsuro no Hako



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:45 pm Reply with quote
Blackiris_ wrote:
Yeah, it's very easy to say that "refugees or immigrants "just want to take our money" when you've had the luck to be born in a wealthy country. Most people forget, though, that these people didn't decide to be born in a poor, war-torn or politically instable country. Locking those people out just to protect your own wealth is selfish.


And lets not forget the part where Western Europe and the US have spent the last hundred and fifty years mucking about in the Middle East, imposing governments that advance our business interests while screwing over the very people who are now refugees. It's the same thing that happens in immigration debates in the US -- history classes barely mention William Walker, the United Fruit Company, Pinochet or the Contras, so Americans grow up thinking that Latin America is screwed up through no fault of ours and we have no responsibility to the people who flee northwards.
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