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Stark700
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:01 pm
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Yup, that makes sense about the sales boost part. A very recent example is Dagashi Kashi this season so the news of that wasn't a big surprise either. I'd definitely also like to see more older shows gets more anime adaptations though as well.
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princess passa passa
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:07 pm
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Yup, this answer seems to be in order. Anime is essentially one long commercial for the manga though I would add that in the instances of shoujo manga (especially high school ones) there is no real tension (or reason) to animate the story after the main couple hooks up. After that the manga delves into how they gonna make their relationship work after high school or focus on the other character's relationships and well.... that's pretty meh.
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revolutionotaku
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:09 pm
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I remember watching the first series of Hellsing. The first 3 episodes were accurate to the manga. But the rest was made up because the manga was still being worked on. Thankfully, Hellsing Ultimate fixed everything in the end.
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Knight-Hart
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:11 pm
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It really sucks for series that aren't very popular and likely won't ever get a second season. I liked BTOOOM, and it ended on a cliffhanger, but I doubt that the anime will ever be continued.
And you also end up with things like Kuroshitsuji season two. Whether or not they had enough manga to adapt (I forget), they made up an original ending to the first season and completely fabricated the second.
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WashuTakahashi
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:20 pm
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What I wouldn't give for a remake of Fruits Basket following the manga...it'll never happen, but I'd throw money at that so hard.
It's a shame that so many good series will never get a season 2 because they weren't seen as good enough advertisements for the source material, or whatever other reasons. :/
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BinBouGami1234
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:23 pm
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So is it safe to assume that shows such as Parasyte and Mushishi Zoku-Sho weren't made with manga sales in mind since they were released long after the end of their respective manga series?
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CrimsonDX
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:25 pm
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I don't mind as much when it is a series that is being localized, but when the manga and/or light novel are Japanese only it really annoys me. I guess even more reasons to learn Japanese.
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Divineking
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:27 pm
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Ah one of the greatest conundrums of anime
The actual reasons are pretty obvious from a financial point of view like Justin said, but it does suck as a consumer. This has pretty much been the standard for decades but the extent to which we get incomplete stories has arguably gotten worse in recent years thanks to adaptions getting shorter episode runs and production committees being pretty risk-averse.
There are a lot of times where I wish more shows would go the FMA route of just letting the anime staff do their own thing with the creator's blessing. Of course I know a lot of people are really picky about faithful adaptions (myself included) and flip out at the mere sight of anything being changed but I'd take that over an incomplete story. I know at the end of the day it's impossible to know what'll be a hit and what won't so a lot of these production committees wouldn't want to risk cutting off the opportunity for sequels but it's a gamble we might be better off with every now and then.
Of course getting more anime reboots or adaptions after the manga ends would be nice too but those are still a pretty infrequent occurrence.
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Weazul-chan
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:29 pm
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wasn't Fruits Basket a sort of special case in that it wasn't just a "let's promote the manga" thing, it was also a "let's give the fans something to keep their mind on the series while the manga is on hiatus" while the mangaka was recovering from wrist surgery?
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sailorsweeper
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:29 pm
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Quote: | I don't mind as much when it is a series that is being localized, but when the manga and/or light novel are Japanese only it really annoys me |
My feeling exactly one recent LN I would love see more of is Unbreakable Machine Doll even if did adapt the first 3 novels it felt like I did not miss much but it ended on a cliffhanger
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killjoy_the
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:30 pm
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BinBouGami1234 wrote: | So is it safe to assume that shows such as Parasyte and Mushishi Zoku-Sho weren't made with manga sales in mind since they were released long after the end of their respective manga series? |
Parasyte in particular had a re-release at the same time as the anime was airing.
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WashuTakahashi
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:31 pm
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Weazul-chan wrote: | wasn't Fruits Basket a sort of special case in that it wasn't just a "let's promote the manga" thing, it was also a "let's give the fans something to keep their mind on the series while the manga is on hiatus" while the mangaka was recovering from wrist surgery? |
I'm not certain about this, but I DO know the main reason we'll never get a season 2 or a remake is because the anime director and manga-ka REALLY didn't get along.
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Weazul-chan
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:44 pm
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WashuTakahashi wrote: |
Weazul-chan wrote: | wasn't Fruits Basket a sort of special case in that it wasn't just a "let's promote the manga" thing, it was also a "let's give the fans something to keep their mind on the series while the manga is on hiatus" while the mangaka was recovering from wrist surgery? |
I'm not certain about this, but I DO know the main reason we'll never get a season 2 or a remake is because the anime director and manga-ka REALLY didn't get along. |
the way I remember it I heard the mangaka used the time she was recovering from her wrist surgery to actually take some real time off and didn't really have much to do with the anime adaption at all. the people making the anime tried to stick as close to the manga as possible while giving the anime a good structured arc (which meant shifting stuff around a little and a gecko ending ep to give it some measure of closure) but there was some conflict after the fact based on some of the assumptions that were made in the anime (NOT the whole Akito thing since no one was supposed to guess the truth at that point and it wouldn't have been revealed until about 10 volumes later at that time). but that was all after the anime was being aired thing, not a while it was being adapted thing. of course, all according to what I remembered hearing (which may admittedly be a bit off given I'm recovering from a terrible cold right now, colds and cold meds aren't always good for your memory).
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:45 pm
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thats not the reason, they can simply hire another director.
killjoy_the wrote: |
Parasyte in particular had a re-release at the same time as the anime was airing. |
afaik, they also wanted to do the aniem much sooner, but there were other problems regarding the adaptation license so they had to wiat until whoever had the rights got them expired.
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Lord Geo
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2016 2:51 pm
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killjoy_the wrote: |
BinBouGami1234 wrote: | So is it safe to assume that shows such as Parasyte and Mushishi Zoku-Sho weren't made with manga sales in mind since they were released long after the end of their respective manga series? |
Parasyte in particular had a re-release at the same time as the anime was airing. |
There was also the fact that the Parasyte anime was part of a big multimedia promotion, since it was announced alongside the two live-action movies.
Really, though, I want to think that this is a question that one can easily think up the answer to with just a little thought, but at the very least Justin gave it a great answer that people can now refer to anytime someone asks this question at all.
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