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KitKat1721



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:05 pm Reply with quote
When the question of "wish list" license rescues came up, the first things I immediately thought of were the Satoshi Kon works that are out-of-print (Paranoia Agent included) and Wolf's Rain. I have both on dvd but it would be so much easier to recommend if it was available for legal streaming (plus the physical media for any fans who missed out on them and can't buy them, at least for a reasonable price).
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Am I the only person not completely in love with ERASED? I certainly like the concept, and the direction can be brilliant. But I am starting to convince myself that its greatness and legacy will be largely determined by how effective (or ineffective) the show's conclusion is.

I hope ERASED sticks the landing, but I feel too much anxiety and uncertainty after every episode I watch.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:06 pm Reply with quote
angelmcazares wrote:
But I am starting to convince myself that its greatness and legacy will be largely determined by how effective (or ineffective) the show's conclusion is.

I love ERASED, but I completely agree that final opinion is going to be determined by if it sticks the landing. If the ending is good, it'll be show of the season, possibly of the year. But if the ending is weak, I think lots of people will turn on it in a heartbeat. Right now it is the first season of LOST, and hopefully it won't end as the finale for LOST. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:53 pm Reply with quote
angelmcazares wrote:
Am I the only person not completely in love with ERASED? I certainly like the concept, and the direction can be brilliant. But I am starting to convince myself that its greatness and legacy will be largely determined by how effective (or ineffective) the show's conclusion is.

I hope ERASED sticks the landing, but I feel too much anxiety and uncertainty after every episode I watch.


No I honestly think it's absolutely tremendously overrated and over marketed. It's honestly even a little off putting or oppressive feeling but I'm used to it with shows by A-1 by now. They know how to hype people up and have the money to market it.

Completely agree with Zac about anime being a ridiculously hype driven "Triple S" business, but again it always seems centered around companies like A-1 and there affiliates. It's kind of making it boring rather than more exciting to me (I just don't do hype really, find it a waste of energy) honestly cause it seems like we're just hitting the same old tired beats every few months and I'm starting to get extremely tired of the whole seasonal hype and marketing thing personally. I'd say it's actually doing more to kill my buzz for anime than anything and making everything feel compartmentalized into this 3 month long balls of "hype or not".

Just no time for that sort of approach to my entertainment these days, I just want watch what I want to watch when I want to watch it now at my own pace and with my own level of anticipation. I also very rarely agree with what the "Triple S" series are supposed to even be vis a vis the general fandom, industry and it's hype mongering. Again usually it just seems like whatever A-1 is doing so like sometimes it's okay like Boku Dake, other times I just can't be bothered like with Grimgar which is dull as sandpaper to me.

Also agree that there's way too much anime being made nowadays and that sometimes people could just stand to watch a movie and avoid the seasonal anime hype mongering machine. I just found anime and interacting with the fandom so much more enjoyable and meaningful before it became about that.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:04 pm Reply with quote
OK, the funniest thing to me might be how quickly the podcast smash-cuts to the outro the second Victoria invites Zac to be on the Crunchycast.

Should we take that as a "no"?

Also, are Evan and Victoria doing more cons lately? It's always been other Crunchy folks I've seen at Anime Central and Youmacon, but I got to meet Evan at AWA this year, and I think one or both of you were tweeting from Katsucon the other week? Anyways, maybe ACen this year, please? We'll bring the stuffed pizza.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 7:38 pm Reply with quote
A very fun, "shootin' the (you know what)" kind of episode this week, but I kind of expected that. While I haven't met Victoria, I know Evan & he's just a cool guy to be around & talk with. I kind of wish my question got asked just to hear Evan's reaction, but I'm sure he was happy beyond Cloud Nine when he found out that, through the Christmas Special, Gdgd Fairies would be shown on "national television"; I expect Tekkyu! to be shown somehow for the Easter Special now.

The funniest part, though, was easily the fire alarm going off. Not simply because I don't think anything like that has ever happened on ANNCast before, but also because Katsucon last weekend & the currently MAGFest both saw full evacuations because of their fire alarms going off. It's almost as if any sort of notable meeting between anime fans is resulting in fire alarms going off lately.

A minor correction, too, as all of ANNCast was slightly off on their Cutie Honey trivia. Cutie Honey Flash was the Sailor Moon-esque TV entry of the franchise, & was the show that replaced Sailor Moon on TV. The early 90s OVA that Zac mentioned was New Cutie Honey.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:46 pm Reply with quote
@Alabaster Spectrum

While I am not in love with ERASED, I still consider it a good anime. And I disagree with you that the show is over hyped and over marketed.

And A-1 Pictures is not the culprit of the things you see wrong with the anime industry. A-1 is an anime studio owned by Aniplex, but they also do work for other companies.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:29 am Reply with quote
angelmcazares wrote:
Am I the only person not completely in love with ERASED? I certainly like the concept, and the direction can be brilliant. But I am starting to convince myself that its greatness and legacy will be largely determined by how effective (or ineffective) the show's conclusion is.

I hope ERASED sticks the landing, but I feel too much anxiety and uncertainty after every episode I watch.


I'm finding it pretty interesting. It's playing with some cool themes (for example I like the idea of going back to young childhood with an adult's perspective), and it's taking itself very seriously (which is a strong plus for me), but I personally find it lacking that special something to really get me going.

I guess it's just not making me think differently very much. We don't know much about what's going on, but it's not so interesting to try to figure out because you can tell that it's ultimately not going to be terribly groundbreaking or complex. I guess that's the main problem I have: I wish there were a lot more going on.

of course it could nail the conclusion or go somewhere really weird and then I'd be wrong about all this. I hope that happens.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:12 am Reply with quote
angelmcazares wrote:
@Alabaster Spectrum

While I am not in love with ERASED, I still consider it a good anime. And I disagree with you that the show is over hyped and over marketed.


Well feel free to. I still think it's a good anime but tremendously overblown in the Western fanbase.

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And A-1 Pictures is not the culprit of the things you see wrong with the anime industry. A-1 is an anime studio owned by Aniplex, but they also do work for other companies.


I have my reasons for thinking so. They do there most decent or tolerable work when they aren't just doing what Aniplex wants but still a lot of bad has happened in the industry since they kind of became top dog IMO.

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angelmcazares wrote:
Am I the only person not completely in love with ERASED? I certainly like the concept, and the direction can be brilliant. But I am starting to convince myself that its greatness and legacy will be largely determined by how effective (or ineffective) the show's conclusion is.

I hope ERASED sticks the landing, but I feel too much anxiety and uncertainty after every episode I watch.


I'm finding it pretty interesting. It's playing with some cool themes (for example I like the idea of going back to young childhood with an adult's perspective), and it's taking itself very seriously (which is a strong plus for me), but I personally find it lacking that special something to really get me going.

I guess it's just not making me think differently very much. We don't know much about what's going on, but it's not so interesting to try to figure out because you can tell that it's ultimately not going to be terribly groundbreaking or complex. I guess that's the main problem I have: I wish there were a lot more going on.

of course it could nail the conclusion or go somewhere really weird and then I'd be wrong about all this. I hope that happens.


For me it's that it just feels extremely typical of what always gets labelled a top anime by fans these days. Oodles of melodrama, time travel elements, cliffhangers even when they aren't particularly necessary nor does the manga even abuse them as much, cute plucky girl characters in seemingly permanent mortal danger, a trouble cynical protagonist with the chance to do something meaningful with his life but will probably end up failing somehow and face with even more cynicism and possibly learn nothing from this experience (this is my prediction at least based on past A-1 melodrama and typical Japanese writing in general these days). It feels more like the kind of anime designed to be popular in the flash rather than memorable or more off the beaten path like a Ping Pong or this seasons own Rakugo tribute.

It's like the discussion said, it's all about generating that seasonal hype in 12 episode allotments nowadays and it's probably the show that has that sort of thing down the most out of anything that started in January as far as the current anime fanbase goes and what it seems to want.

Also A-1 shows always seem to take themselves immensely seriously and with an inflated sense of self-worth and merit, it's probably one of the more off putting things about their shows when it backfires, which is IMO fairly often. Just always with the weepy relationship melodrama and trying to seem profound which gets annoying after a while. It probably hit a peak with their last noitaminA series Subete Ga F Ni Naru. It also has me wishing other companies could start to get a stab at noitaminA again with minimal input from them and Aniplex without it being some sort of action blockbuster affair. That seems like a tall order nowadays though but oh well.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:47 am Reply with quote
In regards to their discussion about Konosuba's upward trajectory, it isn't just picking up steam with western audiences. Based on cumulative Amazon stalker estimates it's now projecting as the top-selling Blu-Ray of the season in Japan, and by a pretty comfortable margin (Prince of Stride is a distant second, and Erased is WAY down the list). That said, even Konosuba's current sales projection is still under 10,000 units for its first volume at this point, which very much supports Zac's observation that there just isn't a "SSS" show out there this season.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:17 pm Reply with quote
Good to hear Victoria Holden and Evan Minto on the podcast.

I'm only part way in but enjoying it so far.

I started shortly before catching the bus to work from Oakland and when the fire alarm went off the bus was about to turn into the Transbay Terminal in San Francisco. a perfect place to pause.

I'll pick up the rest on my way home tonight from work. Meanwhile I'll plug the podcast to my student workers.
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How about bring back a uncensored DVD BRAY of Violence Jack or Golden Boy. The problem is with the closing of video stores or they dropping their anime sections I wouldn't be able to rent them. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:28 pm Reply with quote
The discussion at 41:00 about Crunchyroll's player was very relevant to me. Every time I fullscreen watched a video on Crunchyroll, I was baffled about the finicky video player jumping to commercials and leaving full screen mode. I didn't think there was any reason that Crunchyroll intentionally wanted their player to function that way.
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Lol, nice ANN Cast this week with Victoria and Evan from Crunchyroll, nice to here their views and opinions on currently airing/older anime and how Crunchyroll works as a team Anime smile .
I loved the story about how Victoria got into Crunchyroll, that old anime fan Evan thought only knew about anime as old as Fullmetal Alchemist and then started writing about WAY OLDER titles in plain Katakana Laughing , the convention with the mangaka of 'Yamada-kun to 7-nin no Majo' and 'Yankee-kun to Megane-chan' Miki Yoshikawa.
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marcos torres toledo wrote:
How about bring back a uncensored DVD BRAY of Violence Jack or Golden Boy.


Violence Jack was re-released on DVD last year through Discotek. The OVAs are pretty awful though and not in a so bad it's good kind of way. But in a this is just garbage kind of way. I only have it because I want to have a collection of Go Nagai related anime.

Now, Zac I find your lack of Cutie Honey knowledge disturbing...not really but you guys were really confused.

Discotek put out the original 70s "Cutey Honey" on DVD a few years ago. There are ADV DVDs floating around of "New Cutey Honey" this is the 90s OVA series you were thinking of. Cutey Honey Flash is the Sailor Moon style series, which only has fansubs. Then there is the Gainax "Re: Cutey Honey" (which is a personal favorite) that went along with the live action movie. Then there is the live action show "Cutie Honey The Live".
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