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mangamuscle
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It would be interesting to see a list of the anmes/studios flops (in the last decade) that didn't had a disc release, the only one I am aware of is the jojo movie and supposedly that was more about in-fighting between producer and the animation studio.
This columns have an underlying fear that "the anime bubble is going to burst", IMO the sky is not falling over our heads, quite the opposite, the universe is expanding at an accelerated rate. Also, on the long run anime studios that release flops (as in, no one wants to see them even if the stream is free) will have their streaming rights prices go down and those that make hot properties will see their steaming rights prices go "to infinity and beyond" 
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Kevelinu
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Yeah I really hope somebody can provide some Anime that aired in the last couple of years that would fall in that category, so badly recieved that it didn't even get a release or were just thought as REALLY bad by fans.
Maybe I will find an Anime there I personally liked? |
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Taskforce
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You know, I'd totally agree with this article except that at least 50% of anime made recently is based on light novels that have never and probably will never get western releases. I'm not sure how that could be considered tailoring to western audiences. I could personally see that fact alone eventually crashing the anime market in English speaking regions again. If for no other reason than people get tired of seeing incomplete adaptations of stuff we'll never see the conclusion of. Especially with the Japanese companies getting very active about shutting down fan translations recently. How many anime actually have an ending these days. It was 1 or 2 a season for a while and more recently its gotten to the point of 1 or 2 a year. I know I'm starting to get fed up with it, but maybe I'm in the minority.
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HeeroTX
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It got a physical release, but Samurai Flamenco bombed pretty hard and was considered one of the main things behind a studio's collapse. |
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HeeroTX
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re-read:
The article also notes that China is possibly more lucrative than America already. (I don't know what their light novel market looks like, but I know Japan also gets heavy tourism from China) |
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mangamuscle
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Maybe it is time to get the pitchforks and torches and as consumers start demanding "Hey crunchy, we liked Konosuba, we want more, get on it on the double and that is an order!"
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RestLessone
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Ouch, Samurai Flamenco. That one had the added sting of being an original project: it was supposed to be a decent success on its own. Most anime that flop are based on an existing property; the animation studio is (usually) contracted and, while sales are nice, the goal is to push the original game/LN/manga/etc. Not to mention it was a 22 episode series...
My first thought was M3: The Dark Metal. It wasn't completely swept under the rug, but its BD/DVD volumes were scrapped and it was released as a single box set instead. I've heard that it had some story problems, but don't know a whole lot about it. Also, and I'm not sure if this had anything do to with its lack of popularity, but it aired on April 22, 2014. That was pretty late into the season, considering it was a new property (ie, not an adaptation or sequel) and the second to last premiere was Mekakucity Actors on April 13. Anyway, it made me wonder if not a lot of people even tried it, since it aired after the busy-but-euphoric first couple weeks. |
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#852992
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Nanoha Vivid didn't have a DVD/BD release, but I don't think that the reason would be low sales, since it's a pretty popular franchise.
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Mr. Oshawott
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If I correctly recall, Gangsta fared pretty badly, perhaps due to its poor animation and seemingly unattractive character design. |
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Buzz201
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Anime Limited's Andrew Partridge said on their podcast that at one point China was paying more than the rest of the world (excluding Japan) combined for anime rights, but then the government banned a bunch of hugely popular titles and it calmed down a bit.
I thought that was not released because Manglobe went under, rather than for artistic or commercial reasons. Last edited by Buzz201 on Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:40 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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RestLessone
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Sales-wise, Gangsta wasn't actually doing too bad. Disc sales averaged a little more than 2500. Not a real success, but there are series every season that get sub-1000 averages. If you meant its story, though, many people--myself included--thought it started coming apart at the seams and had a worse-than-usual non-ending. Animation quality steadily dropped and its soundtrack was generally boring. But people seemed to like the designs, with the exception of a few characters that clashed with the series' tone. If we're talking about its releases being cut, then it had to do with Manglobe going under I'd assume. EDIT: On the topic of China and anime, it feels like we're seeing an uptick in anime series based on Chinese properties. Reikenzan this season and Soul Buster in fall. Studio Emon is a new Japan-based subsidiary of Shanghai E-kai Bunka Denpa and is responsible for the upcoming Shirogane no Guardian which is based on a Chinese comic. TV Tokyo is partnering with Taiwanese companies to create a Xuan-Yuan Sword adaptation slated for 2017 and will apparently be first broadcast in China. Even something like Chu Feng has received or is receiving a Japanese dub. Last edited by RestLessone on Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:31 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Paiprince
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I've been keeping up with seasonals since 2010 and I've never really encountered a series that had never had a domestic home release somewhere down the line. I doubt we'll ever see a show share the same fate as the infamous Maze Movie ever again and even if it did, the show would gain notoriety for its disappearance alone.
China has become the king of entertainment consumption over the years what with it being the biggest market for Hollywood movies overseas.How that translates to anime isn't exactly clear cut by virtue of its still tumultuous relationship with Japan thus limiting its selection to politically neutral anime which filters about 90% of the lot. |
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relyat08
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I'm just hoping that this pursuit of wold-wide hits leads to more variety, artistic freedom, and complete stories. So far, that actually does seem to be happening to an extent. But more is always good.
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GarethXL
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the chinese market (china+taiwan) basically publish majority of works from kadokawa, MF, dengeki, and some of the more popular smaller publishers work. as for home video sales, i think majority of lost sales is due to over priced disc with only 2~3 ep with a sub par quality product. seriously who's going to buy a blue ray with roughly 1 hour of (shitty) content except for the die hard fans. or to put in to perspective would you buy a twilight movie or even the whole (not) trilogy if you're not a fan, or a more familiar note would you buy dragon ball evolution if you're a fan. unless you're a masochist the answer will be no. and that's what most of the studio doesn't get, nobody would buy guano let alone guano that is chop up and serve you in a pretty packaging. i don't want to sound like an old man but they just don't get it that people want quality in their product, not putting any effort into what they are payed to do basically begs them to lose money. |
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GATSU
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That's a nice racket they got going on there. Charge an arm and a leg for the privilege of preventing them from engaging in the usual 'five-fingered discount' approach to 'purchasing' anime. |
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