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REVIEW: Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers [Collector's Edition] Sub.Blu-Ray 2+DVD




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Engineering Nerd



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:15 am Reply with quote
Good review, Nick. Although I may not like this show as much as you ( still like it though), I can see why this genre switch fits your cup of tea.


By the way, besides the bothersome CG, there were MANY off-model shots and scenes during the TV broadcast, I wonder if the BD version fixed them all
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shuusei



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:14 pm Reply with quote
Pony Canyon releases rub me the wrong way. Not sure if it's the lame-looking Oversized cases, or the fact that screwed people and took away a standard edition right before release, but I don't see myself ever buying from these guys.

Which is funny. Cause like 80% of the shows I own are Aniplex.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:24 pm Reply with quote
Rokka's probably the best of the mystery anime that came out last year. It doesn't try to bog down the viewers with pseudo-philosophical (even though I wasn't particularly bothered by it) gunk like Perfect Insider, it doesn't throw gorn at the viewer to excuse the fact that the mysteries are poor like Ranpo Kitan, and unlike Sakurako-san, it had more than one character (Well technically two because Hector's cute as fudge) I could give a shit about. Rokka succeeds in telling a rather simple yet effective and engaging "Whodunnit" story with a lot of twists and turns.

I don't think Nick's gonna like the ending though. In fact, no one really likes the ending. (But like Insider's pretentious-ness, it wasn't enough to affect the whole show for me)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:55 pm Reply with quote
While the show animation is nothing outstanding there's some very well done shoot that rescue the whole thing and I ended up quite liking the show visual because of that. A few shot are somewhat ruined by the limited budget, but would have been great with a bigger one. Not sure whose responsible but I hope he'll helm bigger project next.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:48 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
While the show animation is nothing outstanding there's some very well done shoot that rescue the whole thing and I ended up quite liking the show visual because of that. A few shot are somewhat ruined by the limited budget, but would have been great with a bigger one. Not sure whose responsible but I hope he'll helm bigger project next.


Rokka's director was Takeo Takahashi, who also directed Mauyuu Maou Yuusha and Spice & Wolf, among others. Chief animation director was Sayaka Koiso, who has a decently long list of animation director and key animation credits to his name.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:54 pm Reply with quote
RocketOtter wrote:
I don't think Nick's gonna like the ending though. In fact, no one really likes the ending.


In fact, I liked Rokka's ending. Although it was rather spoiler[inconvenient to present another character and another (or the same) mistery] that may or may not be animated, I really liked how things "wrapped up". At least it wasn't a "you want to see how this ends, then read the novel" ending. The only thing that pisses me off is the fact that nobody has licensed it.

And I also want to know if the bad character animation was fixed, because most of the times, the animation during the tv broadcast left much to be desired (And I'm pretty sure I'll never this anime, thanks PonyCan).
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 3:37 pm Reply with quote
Wow, there are three installments of this, each currently priced at $72 from RightStuf. Rokka no Yuusha was a decent series, but it is hardly worth $216. It might be worth $72 for the entire series, but you have to be a devoted collector with a large bank account to pay prices like Pony Canyon is asking.

I hope they never license anything I'd really like to own. Mononoke is a far better series with supernatural and mystery components, and the complete series costs less than $20. True that's a DVD, but I care more about the content than the format.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:22 pm Reply with quote
chito895 wrote:


In fact, I liked Rokka's ending. Although it was rather spoiler[inconvenient to present another character and another (or the same) mistery] that may or may not be animated, I really liked how things "wrapped up". At least it wasn't a "you want to see how this ends, then read the novel" ending. The only thing that pisses me off is the fact that nobody has licensed it.\

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I gotta ask how in the blue hell do you figure they wrapped up anything by the end of season 1?

spoiler[By the end of it you're right back where you started before the temple mystery and they have spent virtually no effort on the true main plot.They spend 2/3 of the entire season trying to figure out the temple mystery and in the end it's utterly pointless. for starters having Nacho be the culprit and how they did it just was sloppy and lazy to me. Oh I'm going to help save everyone so we can coexist...by basically letting 500,000 people die. They take her from sweet and bubbly to psychotic and unstable at the flip of a switch. No working into it. No having it make any sense what so ever. Nope, just here she's the bad guy and actually crazy ha ha. With how they worked the temple mystery there really was not other logical choice but her to be the traitor, but the fact is they backed themselves into a corner with that in my opinion. I could forgive that though, but what I can't forgive is wasting 8 episodes on that crap only to at the end of it have the EXACT SAME PROBLEM pop right back up. You spent all those episodes uncovering that mystery of the false brave only to have another brave pop right up at the end. So either she's fake or after all that crap one of the others is also still a fake after spending all that time establishing the fact they are not fakes. To add the biggest insult to injury the whole time during the temple mystery they kept saing how important it was to find the traitor. We gotta find the traitor. It's super duper important. And then right after it when yet another brave pops up they all basically go "f*ck it, whatever" and go on about their business. That seeming complete lack of giving a shit is to me a big slap in the face. Along with Pony's price of course.]

I don't begrudge others who enjoyed it to the end and truth be told I wanted to enjoy the show. I really did. Up until episode 12 I did mostly enjoy it. I could forgive the short comings up until that last episode where they basically give you a middle finger to your face. Not cool.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:45 pm Reply with quote
I enjoyed the ending, didn't have much problem spoiler[that it opened the door to there being 2 impostors among them]. I enjoyed the anime enough that I can overlook that part of the ending (which is a rare thing, as the ending usually ruins an anime, where I've enjoyed the "journey").

Though, I can't overlook it enough to shell out the type of $$$ for the PonyCan release of the show. I was all in for a standard edition, but they took that away, so I'm keeping my money. Annoying thing is, for me, that this won't be licensed in Australia.

That is, if this trend I'm seeing with PCUSA continues. Aside from Cute High Earth Defence Club LOVE!, which would've been licensed while PCUSA was still in its set-up stage (I assume), every other show that PCUSA has licensed hasn't been licensed by an Australian company. So I'd have no choice but to import if I want to own PCUSA licensed show. Though, they've yet to have a show I'd deem worthy of spending extra money on for a CE release.

Hell, I'm unsure if Cute High is actually going to be getting a disc release here. Madman licensed that one, and it is up on AnimeLab for streaming...but, it's no longer listed on the Madman website. So, maybe even the one show that was licensed by a company over here won't even see a disc release...

This is what they said when they announced the license:
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Cute High Earth Defence Club LOVE!
When a mysterious pink wombat suddenly appears out of nowhere, the five members of The “Earth Defense Club” at Binan High School will have their world turned upside down. They are transformed into ‘Battle Lovers’ and must defend the earth… with LOVE!

Cute High Earth Defence Club LOVE! will be streaming in January on AnimeLab. Home video release details to be confirmed at a later date
https://www.madman.com.au/news/wrap-up-find-out-what-weve-announced-over-the-past-12-days/

We're now in March 2016...me thinks it won't get a home video release from Madman...

Now, back to the ending of Rokka. As someone else mentioned, I do wonder if the reviewer will enjoy how the series wraps up. Some might've been inclined to be a bit more lenient on the ending, if there was the possibility of a 2nd season. Since that isn't the case with this at all...I can understand that some would be harsher on it.
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Vanadise



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:25 pm Reply with quote
I really liked Rokka. Didn't quite $216 like it, but it was my favorite show from that season.

I did like it enough to go read all of the novels that are out, and for what it's worth, I think they continue to get better after the first one; in a lot of ways it's really just the prologue for the rest of the story. I don't think I'd say the ending was bad, but they picked a bad place to end it. If they wanted to end the series on a cliffhanger, they should've just animated the next scene from the beginning of the second novel; the place where they ended gives a false impression of where the story goes next.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:04 am Reply with quote
Underrated af
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