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ggqt
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I don't see how. Just because I'm not praising the show does not in anyway mean it's a "troll". Can you argue my points at all? You really can't say that all these things are happening at random for no real reason.
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Spotlesseden
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they are not random characters. lol They want to use the Mecha to save the town. You know know later or go read the manga. They play some important role. The Ao doesn't want to give them the key because that's his mother's bracket. That's Ao's robot, nobody is going to use it other than him. Everybody should know that before even watch the first ep. your examples are bad. You name me one anime, I can use the same logic that you just used. |
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ggqt
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I feel so much hostility. But I guess if you are going to treat me like a troll I might as well have fun acting like one. Lol you try to pose an intelligent argument but you can't really even read. You make a faulty point about Ao not "wanting" to give up the bracelet when I implied that the three grown men should have just TAKEN it, And yes yelling "GET IN IT!! GET IN IT" is forcing plot progression, as well as trying to indirectly explain the plot to the audience. My trolling skills are rusty, I'm pretty sure I need a few more "lols" and "umadbros" in there. But I'm sure it's fine. Last edited by ggqt on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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G-mofactor
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I understand your point, but I think there is already too much already going on. Even the first episode's developments went quick as well, and second episode is the continuation of that of course. On top of that, there are already a lot of characters that are introduced, or to keep track of. So, I can see how it could be congested. Although, if there was more to the plot of what and why there is so much happening in those two episodes, then the attack on the island might last longer than 2 episodes. There is too much questions right now, and very little to support any arguments in my opinion. You just have to observe what going on, have some kind of reasonable doubt, and watch as the story progress. Who knows, an episode might focus on what kind of roles those three men play in the story. |
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Spotlesseden
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good people don't forcibly take stuffs from kids. Like i said they are not random characters. They told him if he doesn't want to give them the key, he will have to come with them and pilot the robot. I don't understand your logic. Your troll skill is bad. like i said. Give me an anime, i will use your logic for any anime. Like naruto, "fight, fight" force plot. |
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ggqt
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I don't know why you are getting so up set, I'm just making fun of a bad show. See what's funny is your naruto argument is implied while mine is literal. Plus no one ever said naruto was good. Sorry but your literary skills suck. I'm not even going to bother to defend my point anymore, because well... I don't need to. It defends it self. You just try WAY to hard to defend a show that is bad.
Hmm ok you want a challenge? Do Pokémon. Try and find a forced plot in that? That's right; you can't. because there is no plot. |
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Spotlesseden
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how about they force the anime to fight. why just let them fight and do their thing. Stop telling pikachu to "run, run, run"
Team rocket forced into bad situations without explanation. http://youtu.be/nM48Y1oq214 what make you think i'm upset? I just don't get your point. your logic doesn't make any sense. Why don't you explain why telling the kid to "get in it, get in it" is forced plot? And what should they do to make it not force? |
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ggqt
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Meh. You're grasping, it's common knowledge that Pokémon as no plot.
As for how I know you're upset. It's pretty simple to see you are being openly hostel at me because I was saying the show is bad. Hey, I want the show to be a good as the next guy; but it's just not. Just far to many plot holes and the show's barely started. Like I can tell you right now the magic circles they added for prettiness is never going to be explained, |
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Spotlesseden
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Where i was "openly hostel at you?" because i disagree with you forced plot logic? I don't even know if this show is good or not. If just want people to agree with you, then fine I won't response to any of your future post.
do you even watch my vid? it has no plot? you lose all your credibility.
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ggqt
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I think you broke sarcasm. Clearly Pokémon has a plot, EVERYTHING has a plot. The implied point was that pokémon's plot is so simple it does not need explaining. The plot is straight froward so nothing can be forced.
Clearly hostile. Though really, if I cared about people disagreeing with me I would not come to place like there internet where there are more conflicting opinions than anywhere else. |
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kaydub
Posts: 318 Location: Cincinnati, OH |
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2 episodes in and so far Ao isn't totally whiny and annoying, and there aren't any uber-annoying toddlers running around with the sole purpose of making both Ao's and the audience's life miserable.
I'd say this one is off to a great start! In all seriousness, I thought it was a good episode. I didn't think anything was really forced plot-wise, at least compared to the beginning episodes of pretty much any other mecha series. The only things I didn't really like were when Ao's hair changed color (although I knew it was going to happen since the promo pics were released) and when spoiler[Fleur found Ao floating in the water after he flew away. Specifically, why was he unconscious in the water? He seemed plenty fine when he flew away and found a nice secluded spot to park the Nirvash... did he just decide to take a nap face-down in the water or something?] Also, new Nirvash is even more BA than old Nirvash. Me gusta. |
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Svidrigailov
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Yes, I just didn't want to bother. So against my better reason:
"Fodder characters" usually don't last more than a few minutes, e.g. every random Zaku pilot in MSG or Shin in the final episode of Bebop. These characters have been around for two episodes, so at the very least it's too early to deem them "fodder". Next we have the brilliant observation that in stressful situations, people yell at other people, usually about a line of flight any lumpen with a hint of gumption will take. Ever drive a car and have someone yell "Slow down!" or "Stop!" when a car in front of you hits the brakes? Yeah, it happens.
Ever heard of Deus ex machina? Name me a single series -- no, name me any piece of fiction that escapes this criticism. Why don't you go bitch out Aeschylus and Homer while you're at it?
See above.
Wrong. Why a Pikachu? Why not start with Magikarp or Meowth or some shit? There's 151 in the original series, right? Why that one? And what about the new Pokemon magically appearing? I don't know enough about the show to go in depth, but I assume the protagonist wins a lot, right? Why? Why doesn't he lose? Deus ex machina.
You mean he's being openly hostel-like? Inviting, European and relatively cheap? No, of course you mean hostile. As soon as you make it a point to criticize one's literacy, yours is put under the magnifying glass. Not to mention ad homs are a logical fallacy, implied or otherwise. ("Lol you try to pose an intelligent argument but you can't really even read.")
Magic circles? I honestly don't recall. Care to refresh my memory? |
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Unicorn_Blade
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Aw, the beginning made me laugh, just like Eureka 7 made me laugh a few times ex. (football match episode). Gazelle and his buddy sliding off the ship into the sea was hilarious.
Ao and his friends to me seem like more bearable main characters than Eureka and Renton, I was not fond of the Eureka until the second half and when it comes to Renton, I felt more sorry for him than anything else for being a scape goat. They still did not give a lot of hints as to where the series actually takes place... Is it parallel world, is that the Eureka we know, and if yes, obviously Renton was not there. I wonder whether we will get to see any of the first series' characters at all. At any rate, so far so good. |
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ggqt
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Whoa Svidrigailov slow down, that's is far to much for me to care about about.
A few things though. You are not only over using the term Deus ex machina, you are using it wrong for the most part.
I never said that lol. That was someone else. Want another example of funny plot forcing? Remember when his robot's arm got cut off, then he says; "omg I lost my arm, jk lol nvm" (I'm paraphrasing) then kills the black thing with it. You are confusing plot in general with Deus ex machina. probably because you don't actually know what it means. Episode one gives valid reasons why he gets Pikachu; he woke up late, all the other start pokemon where gone and professor Oak had just caught it slightly before hand. Valid reasons as to why, not just because. Yeah yeah; hostel. I post from my phone most of the time. Have you ever tried typing on a touch screen with projected text? I'm surprised why spelling is as good as it is. Magic circles: Episode One around 17:29. There is no reason for them I'm sure. But hey they look cool. Maybe more people will watch the show because of them. It was better when they where just rings, like in the original E7 |
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Svidrigailov
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