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All About Licensing: Part III


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partysmores



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:47 pm Reply with quote
That would certainly be my reaction if someone put together a DVD --- even of a spit anime --- in iMovie.
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PurpleWarrior13



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:52 pm Reply with quote
Has any company ever seriously tried making DVDs in iDVD? That would be hilarious if they did! I know Illumnitoon's replacement Bo-bo-bo.. discs were DVD-Rs, but at least the menus were (supposedly) professionally done. Razz
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RGaspar



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:34 pm Reply with quote
Great articles!

Thanks for the info and fun read. If you were the one behind "The Anime Economy", then I'm gonna say I'm loving your stuff. Keep up the good work!



Btw, somehow I feel like the example series is talking about Mysterious Girlfriend X, but that's just me, right? Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:06 pm Reply with quote
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Besides, what's the fun in making a fake example company if we can't light it on fire?


I think I actually laughed milk out of my nose reading this. (I was drinking water at the time.)

I've seen more than one film licensing start-up company go down these same roads... it's always a little sad, particularly when you realize that so many of them started with good intentions and what seemed like a sensible strategy.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:36 pm Reply with quote
Really interesting! I'd love to hear more about licensing, like what happens when they can't agree on terms and how they reconcile. As others have said I'm also interested in a 'how anime is made' article, starting from either contacting the mangaka or coming up with an original concept.
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zeonozero



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:17 pm Reply with quote
These 3 licensing articles were hugely entertaining. Most of it was based off a scenario, so it was actually telling a story instead of just giving hard facts. Now I feel a little bit more sympathy to the licensors here in America.

Still i guess disappointed that most things happen through emails or phone, seems low class and what not Razz in my opinion of course
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LUNI_TUNZ



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:22 pm Reply with quote
zeonozero wrote:
These 3 licensing articles were hugely entertaining. Most of it was based off a scenario, so it was actually telling a story instead of just giving hard facts. Now I feel a little bit more sympathy to the licensors here in America.

Still i guess disappointed that most things happen through emails or phone, seems low class and what not Razz in my opinion of course


Low class? How are they supposed to do it? Holograms?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:25 pm Reply with quote
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This picture might not be directly related but it sure provides some info of funding an anime.


I can't understand the words, but from the decreasing amounts and the sad dude at the end, is the strip highlighting how middlemen take lots (as in most) of the funding or profits?
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JaffaOrange



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:44 am Reply with quote
This part makes me want to read a retrospective of the great successes and failures of western anime companies; what went wrong/right and why it ended up that way.
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Anymouse



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:33 am Reply with quote
I have a great idea for a company: license Stellvia, Nanoha, Ground Defense Force Mao-chan, and make loads of profit. With hard copy DVD's.
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Ojamajo LimePie



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:56 am Reply with quote
What happens if the company licensing the anime does stuff to the series (like making an edited dub) without telling the original rights holders? I heard that 4Kids had their license for Tokyo Mew Mew revoked because Studio Pierrot was horrified when they found out about the dub changes after the fact.
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:32 am Reply with quote
Anymouse wrote:
I have a great idea for a company: license Stellvia, Nanoha, Ground Defense Force Mao-chan, and make loads of profit. With hard copy DVD's.

Good idea! I have a great name for it too - Geneon.
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dtm42



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:15 am Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
Good idea! I have a great name for it too - Geneon.


Gene-who?

Oh. OH. I get it now . . .
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yuna49



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:44 am Reply with quote
I would think the industry in Japan is small enough that once some distributor screwed over a licensor as described in this piece, they wouldn't be able to do business with anyone in Japan. Wouldn't shenanigans like those pretty much doom the distributor?

Following on samuelp's and Shiroi Hane's suggestions, I'd be especially interested in how original anime productions come to be made. Iso Mitsuo gave a few informative talks back in 2007-2008 about his problems finding a producer for Dennou Coil. Risk aversion seems so rampant, especially given the state of the economy in G20 countries, that it often seems a miracle that a project like Tsuritama sees the light of day. How important are directors like Nakamura in this process? How is a project like Tsuritama financially justified? What about original series that aren't produced for noitaminA?
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Shiroi Hane
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:57 am Reply with quote
For that matter, it might be interesting if a case study could be made of Anime no Chikara, which was about creating original anime but disappeared after a few titles (Sora no Woto, Occult Academy and Night Raid).
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