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NEWS: Funimation Enforces Intellectual Property Rights

I think after a certain point fansub groups have the right to finish a series

I mean for people who kept up with Basilisk for 19 episodes to deny them there is absolutely cruel because now they must wait around eighteen months to see the final few episodes.

Here we go again. It's not junk, Ohoni. You just don't like it. Period. Other people (such as myself) love dubs and extra features (such as audio commentaries) and it is insulting when you say what we enjoy is junk. Remember, that's your OPINION, not a fact, but I guess I shouldn't expect less from you.

Also, you may be supporting a dub when you buy an R1 DVD, however, you're also supporting the series' release in the US. The more people who buy the DVDs, the more evidence there is that the series is doing well. Just ignore the dub if you don't like dubs and watch the JAPANESE TRACK WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES instead of stealing from the creators you claim to love and watching a crappy mpeg file on your laptop. It's not too hard. At least, not for the rest of us.

No it isn't. You just wanted the series to be out by now because you're a self-obsessed fanboy. FUNimation isn't going to cater only to you because you want some series to be licensed and on store shelves when YOU want it.

But keep in mind, a song costs $1 to $2 online. That's a 3~5 minute song. Buying 10 or so of these costs just as much as full CD, but people think its great because they don't want all the songs from the CD. But when it comes to anime, you want all the episodes. So if 3~5 minutes of audio costs $2, we could verywell expect 22 minutes of video to cost at least $8, if not more since video takes up much mroe bandwdith per minute.

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Oh, and my Inner Editer is coming out...


I think you mean "inner editor".

The one thing Fansubbing NEVER involves is the removal or depreciation of the original source material, so relatinging it to any form of theft that involves those things is as pointless as comparing shoplifting to violent bank heists.

In regards to who gives them this right, it is by no means a legal right. I meant that in principle, they should be allowed to finish the series. For example, Funimation is currently licensing and releasing Naruto and yet that has not ended the groups that fansub Naruto. Based on your statement of it is the person's fault for not waiting, I would have to disagree.

I mean if that is the case, then if Naruto fansubbing were to stop and people had to wait for it; according to your definition it would be their fault for watching the first 160+ episodes and not waiting for it. You cannot blame an anime fan for not waiting especially when thanks to magazines such as Newtype many new shows are hyped up only to appear here years later (i.e. Gundam Seed and Gundam Seed Destiny), they have been on Newtype USA well before the introduction of each show respectively.

What I am saying is that fansub groups display a lot of various program talents and skills whenever they put out a release (on a small scale it is what the distribution companies do). So at least from the perspective of acknowledging that work, which they do not get paid for if they basically complete a show within a few episodes they should be allowed to finish. They are taking the raw materials, turning it in a subbed episode of decent quality, and producing it on a constant basis with no where near as much help and/or budget. I think because of all this effort, they have the right to see a show through to the end. Plus in the long run what harm could the last quarter of a series do. It may be impatience that makes a fan want to see a show through to the end, but it is also not right to make them wait obscene periods of time to see the show.

It steals potential buyers of the original source where the money would have gone to(which means there stealing the customer who has the money away from the companys though no money was made for the fansubber, money was loss for the company).Theft. Ohoni you should know a little more about law seeing how you told everyone that you're in Maryland's university.

It steals potential buyers of the original source where the money would have gone to

Ohoni you should know a little more about law seeing how you told everyone that you're in Maryland's university.

Anime is not a right, it is a privledge, just because you are to cheap to buy anime, does not mean that that what Funi is doing is wrong.

Again, the purpose of fansubs isn't instant anime. It's to let people know about anime they wouldn't otherwise in hope that the exposure will lead to a license.

Furthermore, if after say 100 or so episodes of Naruto you should have already figured out if it's a series you like.

Do I hear anyone praising FUNimation for having FMA on American TV about a month after it ended in Japan? No, I just hear people bitching about not being able to download it.

That's a laugh. I can digitaly subtitle something in less than a day if I have a translation. Timing, Typesetting and encoding don't really take that much skill. If I want to make sure everything is perfect, I'll take a few days as I'm pretty anal about timing. the only area where fansubs excel is the timing, and I've noticed some impovment from the US producers lately on that lately.

I've seen plenty of fansubs with missed translations, horrible romaji of the names, etc. that I'm sure the creators would consider a depreciation of their work.

So where's my Advent Children? Fans can't wait forever.