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NEWS: Official Synopsis for Spike Lee's Oldboy Revealed

Surrender Artist wrote:

have you ever looked into what America has done to black people? I think that they deserve a little leeway on anger, because right or wrong, their anger comes from a Hell of a lot more real, worthwhile place than most other peoples'.

i think that way sometimes, but then i drive somewhere and have to stop while a black person deliberately walks extra slow across the street making no effort whatsoever to get out of the way of traffic even though the light is green. a great big f u to the white man in his car. that snaps things back into focus and then i think they deserve everything they got. how many more years of things being equal before they stop with the passive aggresive bs like that. yes, it's almost always black people. unless there's a bass beat or a basketball around they aint moving faster than a snail. if there was a fat white chick across the road maybe they'd speed up. it's hard to move fast when you're weighed down with all that flavor and swagger. that's why they're always late.

We British are always scratching our heads when America tries to remake our shows for no reason whatsoever (For more recent examples, The Inbetweeners and Sherlock).

Cautious optimism here. For what I associate Spike Lee with, it seems like the film is headed in a good *cough* direction.

Ryu Shoji wrote:

We British are always scratching our heads when America tries to remake our shows for no reason whatsoever (For more recent examples, The Inbetweeners and Sherlock).

Well, I believe Elementary is happening because CBS couldn't adapt Sherlock, but that's beside the point. The point is that everybody wants to be 2nd.

Surrender Artist wrote:

have you ever looked into what America has done to black people? I think that they deserve a little leeway on anger, because right or wrong, their anger comes from a Hell of a lot more real, worthwhile place than most other peoples'.

i think that way sometimes, but then i drive somewhere and have to stop while a black person deliberately walks extra slow across the street making no effort whatsoever to get out of the way of traffic even though the light is green. a great big f u to the white man in his car. that snaps things back into focus and then i think they deserve everything they got. how many more years of things being equal before they stop with the passive aggresive bs like that. yes, it's almost always black people. unless there's a bass beat or a basketball around they aint moving faster than a snail. if there was a fat white chick across the road maybe they'd speed up. it's hard to move fast when you're weighed down with all that flavor and swagger. that's why they're always late.

i'm a new yorker and the sight of him at knicks games acting like he's a player jumping up and down and going onto the court yelling like a jackass is embarrassing.

Because where I've lived that's been pretty much everyone when the light goes green and they want to take their sweet time walking across the street with no sense of urgency. If I want to be honest about the people in my redneck backwoods small town, then on more than one occasion a racist hick has actually showed no signs of slowing as I'm crossing the street in a parking lot seemingly unapologetic if he were to have hit me.

All these talks remind us of how "Beat" Takeshi is perceived. While people outside Japan take him and his works seriously, in Japan they see him as nothing more than a comedic clown and wonder what stupid foreigners see in him:

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All these talks remind us of how "Beat" Takeshi is perceived. While people outside Japan take him and his works seriously, in Japan they see him as nothing more than a comedic clown and wonder what stupid foreigners see in him:

Not really,famous and well respected film critic Nagaharu Yodogawa called him "the true successor" to Akira Kurosawa not to mention that he also teaches at Tokyo University of the Arts which is the one of the most prestigious art schools in Japan.

really?! LOL. it's one of the best movies i've ever seen. just for fun i went on imdb and looked it up and here is if you want to compare your 1 opinion with 165 thousand others:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/

8.4/10 is a pretty high rating, no? guess you're right and everyone else is wrong.

While people outside Japan take him and his works seriously, in Japan they see him as nothing more than a comedic clown and wonder what stupid foreigners see in him

Can we start blocking "oh no another American remake of something foreign" comments already; we were spammed with those to death the first few threads on this topic. Everyone understands that its only the Americans who make remakes, and they are always bad.

Sarcasm aside, like it has already been pointed out Oldboy the film was a Korean adaption of a Japanese work. On top of that, it was not a very good movie anyway, Ill give it the twist ending but the rest of the movie did not particularly catch my interest.

And since someone brought up Departed, well how about the Chinese remake of What Women Want, really? Thats the movie you chose to remake.

We British are always scratching our heads when America tries to remake our shows for no reason whatsoever (For more recent examples, The Inbetweeners and Sherlock). I wonder if it's because people in the entertainment industry are in denial that there are other countries in the world or something? xD

Sunday Silence, I'm well aware of Spike Lee's personal history. Even a month (or two?) ago he's gotten himself into hot water.

If you think that makes his work null and void, I would hope that none of your favorite creators don't say/do anything controversial, or you'll have to be done with them.

CrownKlown wrote:

Can we start blocking "oh no another American remake of something foreign" comments already; we were spammed with those to death the first few threads on this topic. Everyone understands that its only the Americans who make remakes, and they are always bad. Sarcasm aside, like it has already been pointed out Oldboy the film was a Korean adaption of a Japanese work. On top of that, it was not a very good movie anyway, Ill give it the twist ending but the rest of the movie did not particularly catch my interest. And since someone brought up Departed, well how about the Chinese remake of What Women Want, really? Thats the movie you chose to remake.

Exactly, not only that, take note that when ANN report on Hollywood or non-Asian live-action adaptation of anime/manga, it'll always get a lot of hate and message saying "it'll suck" (the same thing for when US remake Asian films), but when it's Asia and Japan do live-action anime/manga I never seen people criticize it (only a few would criticize it). When ANN reported on Unforgiven will be getting a Japanese remake, I don't see any negative post about how Japan will wreck it, or "it's going to stink" or "it's going to fail". No our remake haters stay silent on the Japanese remake of Unforgiven, it's like our haters is giving Japan a free pass from criticism. That's why I find it disturbing, people attack Hollywood for remaking Asian films but not the opposite.