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Ambimunch
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Guys Its very simple why these people are defending Aniplex. These individuals that are arguing with us are the few twats that went and bought the releases for 500$+
So now if Aniplex will lower the price, they will feel ripped off for spending their life savings on 26 episodes of a cartoon lol |
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Chagen46
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Yeah, how dare those who want to spend their money as they wish do as such. PROLETARIAT POWAH! EFF DA BOURGEOISIE, MANG! Last edited by Chagen46 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:51 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Myaow
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?? That's so mean. Since when does "having the cash to buy something pricey that you want" = "being an idiot"? I don't have the money for this release because I'm a poor plebe but that doesn't mean that the people who DO are bad or wrong or something. Don't be rude. |
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partysmores
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I mean, in a way, they kinda are. If they have enough money to blow on an overpriced cartoon from Aniplex, they could be helping the poor with it. |
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RyanSaotome
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If it weren't for people paying these prices, there wouldn't be an anime industry at all outside of kids shows. These prices are how 90% of all anime survive. |
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Ambimunch
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Why do you assume that people who are complaining are American? Why are you discriminating if people refuse to pay the Japanese price? There are enough Europeans, Australians, Canadian and British people who don't agree with these prices |
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dtm42
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GUYS. GUYS. GUYS.
Am I correct in thinking that US$550 for twenty-seven episodes, two movies, the soundtrack and all the swag is better value for money than Fate/ZERO's two boxsets, which combined cost more money and only had twenty-five episodes (and no movies)? If you could swallow buying Fate/ZERO then you can definitely swallow buying Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. Last edited by dtm42 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:56 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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partysmores
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But we didn't swallow Fate/ZERO. We complained about that too. But they didn't listen. |
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Calibrator
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That has got to be the single most f*cktarded cause for justification. You don't have the single inkling of how regional market economies work, do you?
Pretty much. They're claiming we're butthurt, but they know if we get our way, the fact that they're complete idiots will actually dawn on them. So, they're trying to sell the delusion as best they can.
It's not mean - it's being a realist. People have tried to be logical and calm with these types before - it doesn't work. Hence, I had no choice by to put it in the simplest possible sense: They're idiots because they're willingly spending their money knowing that if they do, they're f*cking over 95% of the anime community and industry. How can you NOT be an idiot knowing that, and still buy it? This isn't like Ferraris or Apple - where the market is insanely huge, and consumers have vast amounts of variety. This is a much more isolated market that demands distributor cooperation so much more than competition. Last edited by Calibrator on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:57 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Ambimunch
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Funimation, Bandai (RIP), Sentai, VIZ, Rightstuf, ADV (RIP) equal 90% of the anime industry in the North and they DONT charge that much. Last edited by Ambimunch on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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RyanSaotome
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Thats because you're not the audience they're aiming it for. It would be better if people just realized that these imports aren't made for the casual anime fans who want their cheap 30 dollar DVDs. They're made for the biggest fans who want to own a premium collection with all the bells and whistles. |
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GWOtaku
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This is probably pointless, but whatever.
Saying the business model works for AUSA is worthless. This is not what most complainers complain about. One side says "this isn't fair", you say "ah ha, but it will still work" and then you wonder why that other side doesn't smile and accept it, even after assertions that importing the equivalent Gurren Lagann Blu-ray set from Japan would actually cost less money. To argue for a sense of calm and perspective, one could point out how some brick DVD boxed sets used to cost around $200, as once was the case for Gundam Wing and Fushigi Yugi a long time ago. You could point to how, on balance, anime fans get a far better deal for anime than ever considering the quality of DVD and Blu-Ray compared to VHS tapes in the 90s, and so God bless technology. You could point out how a DVD single used to cost 20 or 30 bucks and now you can get a collection of at least 13 episodes, in HD, for double that price most of the time. You could point out that, more often than not, the shows that get collector editions from AUSA made TV or are confirmed for Neon Alley or were streamed *for free* and that, who knows, maybe Gurren Lagann will be too. You could point out how there is a spiffy-looking DVD box set for Gurren Lagann that costs a lot less and argue that we shouldn't feel entitled to HD. Instead there is one and only one dominant counterargument: that to not embrace the most expensive prices for home video product in the world is to be an ignoramus, a fool, a cheapskate. That is sane because that's how it works in Japan, so everyone else has to be entitled. Really? Come on. Yes, there is a point where complaining about the AUSA business model is beating a dead horse and an individual should just stop. But the pushback against it is infinitely worse, and you guys can do better than that tiresome argument you're so fixated on. Last edited by GWOtaku on Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:03 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Ambimunch
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RyanSaotome
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I'm talking about the actual anime industry, not the localization companies. If Japanese otaku weren't paying these prices, the anime companies wouldn't have the money to do all the anime they have now. Last edited by RyanSaotome on Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:59 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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HitokiriShadow
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Popular.... how, exactly? People watching it via free methods or on a site they maybe pay ~$8 a month for? "Popularity" is not the same thing as sales. Shows far more popular than some of the ones you mentioned have been released at normal R1 prices to disappointing sales or at least nothing near what people were convinced would be a smash hit. And funny you should mention Madoka Magica. That had a three-tiered release, and do you know which one vastly outsold the others?
It's slightly more expensive than buying two modern Funi or Sentai sets but not horribly so. And its basically right at the price people paid for the typical R1 release not that long ago, so its hardly anything to get up in arms about.
You are correct. This has more content and its about $100 cheaper. The difference is that F/Z was split so most people weren't paying it all at once (but everyone claims the price as "$700" in AoA arguments) and that was the first release, while this is a re-release and there's a much cheaper new DVD release also coming out. But that just gives people even less reason to complain here. |
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