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musouka
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It's not a relatively new development, unless you think nearly twenty years is recent. |
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agila61
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It was because the topic was diverted away from yuri to hentai, and from hentai to fan-written porn. At that level, repeating "but that's just porn ~ "Hawt Lezbor girl on girl action" in animated porn is just being porn, there's nothing particularly yuri about it," does not give the most obvious springboard to talking about Aoi Hana. I loved Aoi Hana, watched it streaming on Crunchyroll, bought the volume released on JManga before JManga shut down, and if I ever catch up with my months past due student loans, am going to plop down my $30 to buy the Lucky Penny release. The anime market is the tip of the iceberg in the Japanese industry, and while there are large enough yuri niches to sustain ongoing manga and light novel releases, it is obviously not large enough to sustain many releases in the far more expensive area of anime. You kind of either need something that will get enough of the otaku buying it to break even on home video and premium merch sales, or a real big print seller for the publisher to justify subsidizing the anime to support increased print and low-end merch sales.
Yes, a wonderful shojo classic, and with much stronger yuri themes than the classic "female prince" series that they also have, Rose of Versailles, which established themes that much following yuri work has drawn on, but which does not contain those yuri themes itself. For works with strong yuri themes that RoV has influenced, you don't have to go past Revolutionary Girl Utena. |
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Miss Kalle
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Thanks for reminding me that Samurai Champloo really was almost a decade ago. I feel ancient now.
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Mad_Scientist
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Could you stop acting like it's some plague on anime then? The existence of yuri is not the reason for lack of yaoi, or the bad reputation yaoi fans have among some parts of the fandom. Railing against yuri won't get more yaoi released, and this "us vs them" mentality you seem to have is pointless and annoying. |
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HitokiriShadow
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That's pretty much what I was talking about. In absolute numbers, they are slightly above non-existent.
Right, I don't disagree with that. |
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Fencedude5609
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Seriously, yuri and yaoi aren't in competition /at all/, and to act like they are is just bizarre.
Het is the enemy. |
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rinmackie
Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
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Yes, really! Speaking of Viewfinder, i recently discovered it on Youtube with subtitles, if I recall correctly. Along with lots of other explicit yaoi. |
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darkchibi07
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I guess it's getting relatively more frequent would be more appropriate. From 2 years ago to now we had Horizon, Bodacious Space Pirates, and Psycho Pass which featured a legitimate yuri couple as side characters, and this season supposedly spoiler[Attack on Titan has one with Ymir and Christa.] |
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feuerwerke
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Actually, homophobia is the enemy. Why do you think spoiler[Homura never told Madoka she loved her? And Kyoko never told Sayaka she loved her either?] Because if they did, Japanese TV stations prooobably would refuse to air it or something. Or they'd lose otaku fans who are deluded into thinking the girls are all straight (yes, a lot of Madoka fans DO think that, shockingly). Honestly that's the root of the issues both genres face. Also offtopic a bit here but I really wish people would stop assuming yuri is primarily for men. It's not. It's for women. Actually in Japan it's mostly straight women who enjoy yuri. The way dating and romance and such in Japan is structured is stressful and the fantasy of not having to deal with it via being with a girl is appealing to some Japanese women. Also, if Japan really wanted to impress me, they'd animate Girlfriends. |
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Crispy45
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>_> you're thinking of American channels, not Japanese channels. |
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Fencedude5609
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Not detecting a facetious statement is also the enemy. |
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Chagen46
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I'd like to see some actual proof of this. Ugh, yuri has already stolen so much from us yaoi fans, do you really have to steal our main demographic too? Christ. |
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EnigmaticSky
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That's pretty much all Sentai Releases. I am kidding, but they do tend to have sub-par dubs and very bare-bones releases, and occasional general packing problems. ___ Anywho, in regards to the the "yaoi vs yuri" debate, I do tend to notice far more BL/yaoi manga compared to yuri. As far as anime though, there isn't a whole lot out there for either. Aoi Hana and Kannazuki no Miko is out there for yuri fans, but beyond that, not much. There are a couple yaoi titles out there for the girls, but I don't take note (being a straight guy, it kinda just flies under my radar). Really both are deprived anime wise, it shouldn't be a war. |
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HitokiriShadow
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I'd like to see proof of you assertion there. That's absolutely insane. So I guess it was you yaoi fans stealing all our English language yuri manga? |
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Fencedude5609
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You mean other than repeatedly stated demographic data from the major yuri periodicals? Sure, I'll bet you think the publishers of Yuri Hime are lying, just to oppress YOU.
What, precisely, has "yuri" stolen from you? |
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