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INTEREST: Space Pirate Captain Harlock Joins Japan in Anti-Piracy Campaign

Torrenting is taking something that's not yours without permission and without paying for it and keeping it for as long as you like with no intention of ever returning it. Which is pretty much a textbook definition of stealing.

Now, before anyone brings up the "How can I steal something if it doesn't actually exist?" argument, while you may not be physically taking an item, you are still taking away from the artists, animators, actors, staff, directors, etc. who worked on the project. Now tell me, does their hard work, effort, and time "not actually exist"?

It is quite different, if you pay even one penny for a pirated good you are creating an alternate market that might achieve revenues similar to the ones the legitimate owners have. When you torrent is no different from reading a book at a bookstore or borrowing a copy from a friend.

The bookstore comparison is just flat-out wrong for reasons already explained.

As for the borrow-from-a-friend example, aside from the fact that the lender has already paid for the product while the seeder likely hasn't,

there's a good chance your torrent doesn't have any commercials. No commercials means no revenue for the sponsors, which, in large enough scale, means no ad buys on the networks, which means no more TV show because there was no revenue from sponsors buying spots.

Also, borrowing for a more than the allotted time, you may as well be stealing.

Japan has done everything within their power to bring anime to every part of the world,what your're asking for,they've done.

I doubt anyone outside Japan would've heard about this movie if piracy didn't exist.

Here is where your argument breaks down in pieces by itself, tell me oh please tell the audience what I have taken from the artist, their money? their time? their dreams? their pet dog?

Japan has done everything within their power to bring anime to every part of the world,what your're asking for,they've done.

Joe anime wrote:

Japan has done everything within their power to bring anime to every part of the world,what your're asking for,they've done.

Let me get this straight, in the place where you live you get most anime movies in theaters at most six months after their are released in japan? Do you get at your amazon all the anime series you can get at amazon.jp at the same price you pay for local TV series (with subs and dubs)? You can download the latest anime music titles (at a lower price) at yout itunes? You get anime video games released a few months after their release in japan?

If the answer is an absolute yes, please let me know where you live. If the answer is an absolute no, then japan has not done the same work they did to sell their cars and electronic products outside of japan, in layman terms, no, they have not done everything within their power to bring anime to every part of the world

You took away their right to decide who gets to see the works they created, and under what circumstances. Think of it like this --- if I peep into your house when you're taking a shower, have I taken anything tangible away from you, or affected you physically in any way? No, but I violated your personal right to privacy in your own home --- intangible, but important. The same reasoning applies to copyright violations like piracy. You're looking at something you don't have the right to look at unless you have permission.

How convenient it is to forget that the reason copyright law exists is to prevent someone else from profiting from your creations (that is why the german court ordered the destruction of the Nosferatu films, because they were profiting from Bram Stokers Dracula), not to prevent Jon Doe from ever look at the *gasp* work of an artist. Like Profesor Benjamin Shorofsky asked Danny Amatullo in the original Fame TV series, "If an artists creates something for no one else to see, then why he creates?". You need to be a control freak to want to control your creations to the point of knowing you can or cannot see it, once it is released only in a police state you might attempt something so ludicrous (and you will proably fail since such states have more pressing matters, like containing civil unrest, to attend to). Torrenting is an extension of those getting copies via xerox, tape or disc that most people did in the XX century, the industry said such practices would bankrupt them here we are in the XX century and if any artist is not getting his dues is because big companies are robbing them, not Jon Doe.

You're trying to spin this into a discussion about profits when fundamentally this is an argument about rights.

And you're trying to equate distribution of art, knowledge and culture to strangers peeping through your window. Ignoring the fact that there is a legal profession that relies on spying on artists (paparazzi) it's about the worst analogy I've read

We all know copyright exists for the sake of creators making profits off their works, not for some idiotic discriminatory "I don't want A to have access to my work because he sucks". I can't imagine a single artist that thinks like this because, either way, selling your product makes it widely available to anyone who can pay for it, you don't get to choose who buys it. Heck, you don't even get to choose what people do with your work, be it use it as toilet paper or create hentai doujinshi from it. You try to argue with "fundamentals" but your whole argument makes no sense at all

In a nutshell, you are afraid to face reality, the so called "evil torrent users" are not (and never were) the root of the troubles the industry faces, you try to cover your tail forcing this to be a discussion about rights which are kind of esoteric, you are probably the kind of person that was cheering wildly when micro$oft make the announcement about the extended restrictions they would enforce on using your game discs on another person console. Gladly everyday less people believes the drivel you spout.