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You're missing very important piece of info here. Dr.Hell is not a robot engineer, Juuzo is. Dr.Hell is a biochemist (He revived Ashura and Brocken). If Juuzo joined him, he would literally complement him by letting him work on the mechanical beasts. They're not the same genius. Kenzo Kabuto too is a robot engineer, which is why Dr.Hell also wanted him on his side.

Tsubasa didn't know of the invasion. Dr.Hell knew she was trouble, preferred not to tell her anything.

You're wrong. Episode 1 has two parts. The first part, which consists like 5 mins is the introduction where the Daishogun has already come down to earth. The rest of episode 1 with all the scenes from the entire show is what you're referring to. My screenshot is from the first part of it, not the second.

Except he did tell Ankokuji.

On a side note, how do you feel about Violence Jack?

That's irrelevant to what I'm trying to demonstrate. You're stating that Dr. Hell decided not to tell anyone else in the entire world about the invasion because Juuzo refused to join him. I get that Juuzo would have been extremely helpful in Dr. Hell's plans, but him not joining up isn't equivalent to Dr. Hell deciding that literally noone else on the planet would be of any use to him.

That gets to the root of why I believe it to be a plothole. You're assuming that he preferred to not tell her, which is a safe assumption to make, but I simply don't buy that a preference to keep Tsubasa out of it would make him completely keep it to himself. Instead, he makes absolutely no effort to ensure that the very world he wants to take over will still exist.

I accept that his main goal is world domination, but would he be so willing to just sit back and let his world be taken from him? As one of your screencaps shows, he was okay with the world being taken over if he did indeed die, but he barely even tried to safeguard himself or the future he wished to create. It basically pops into existence when the plot finds it necessary instead of being hardwired into the story and THAT'S what I believe makes it a plothole.

I mean, there were plenty of better ways for him to satisfy some conditions for both of his goals. He could've taken over a country, informed the citizens of the invasion and then allied himself with the other countries. Once the threat of invasion vanished, he would have had an even more solid power base than he started with.

His complete disinterest in the invasion

leads me to believe that the writers weren't even really thinking about it and just wanted to throw it in to be a big, dark cliffhanger. If his decisions had seemed even somewhat informed by what was to come

I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it, but it seems to me that he ignored some very important things strictly for plot convenience.
What I'm trying to get across is this: I simply don't accept that he would behave the way he did with the knowledge he had.

Um, why do you think Dr.Hell revived Stroheim? He was to act as a replacement for Juuzo.

If the military is helpless against him, what makes you think it's even a good idea to get other countries involved when we all know in advance that they stand zero chance against the Mycenaean?

What he says and knows though, are already consistent with his decisions. You don't need his inner dialogue to explain this even further. That stuff is already out there.

Which is where I completely disagree with you. The knowledge he had (the known mechanical beasts at his disposal) meant that there was no reason for him to even bother telling anyone else about the invasion.

Once again, I'm not even talking about Juuzo. I was just responding to your point about him being the only one Dr. Hell reached out to.

Because he's the one man with the required knowledge to stop the invasion from happening in the first place. That's my entire point. It doesn't even matter in the long run, because he has the ability to basically stop the invasion, but he chooses not to because the plot calls for it to happen anyway.

Yeah, that's the key point we don't agree on. You think that he would have no reason to share his knowledge about the invasion (and him knowing how to stop it from happening) while I personally can't see why he wouldn't. I don't really have anything else to say on the matter, so we'll have to agree to disagree. Nice discussing with you.