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Redbeard 101
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:39 pm
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Alan45 wrote: | @JesuOtaku
I understand the need to end the Preview Guide at a set point. However this seems to be an ongoing problem with one or two shows having a debut too late to make the guide each season. Would it be possible to have a single person do a Preview type review for such shows when they do come out? Assuming, of course, that they are not selected for episode reviews.
Just something to think about for next season. |
I agree with this. I realize it's out of ANN's hands when shows premiere. Can't blame you guys for that. But it does suck none the less that such shows get shafted in essence because of it. It would be nice if something, even just a single one time premiere review, could be given. Even if it wasn't continued in the daily streaming reviews just having that initial one would be nice. Like Alan said, just something to mull over for the Fall premiere season.
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RestLessone
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:51 pm
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I think having a single preview review for those series would be nice, too. Using this season as an example, it doesn't matter much for God Eater, or even the sequel series (Illya and Idolm@ster), but Venus Project wont be in the preview guide and wasn't selected for weekly reviews. Of course, it's also not something that's really needed. Might be a nice feature is all.
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 9:58 pm
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Well,I'm back! I,Snomaster1,have returned to the Anime Preview Guide. (sounds of groaning from everyone in the forums) There are some stuff I'm familiar with from their manga incarnations. ("Monster Musume" and "GANGSTA") And there are others that I'm not as familiar with. (All the rest of the anime.)
Sooner or later,I'll be back with my takes on some of the newer stuff,so get ready! (more groaning from everyone else) Yes! More lame references! More silly reviews! AND more bad jokes that'll run the risk of getting me banned again! So stay tuned everyone! The Anime Preview Guide hasn't seen the last of me!
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CrowLia
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 10:05 pm
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If I thought Overlord was uncreative and boring, God Eater was a literal checklist of post-apocalyptic action tropes. What with the hero's burning desire to go kill whatever the monsters are called, the walled cities and the decimated humanity plot, it felt like a very poor man's Attack on Titan. The weapons and monster design felt uninspired, although the artstyle was kind of okay, I liked some of the characters' designs -particularly the elite guys that showed up at the end-, but as far as personalities, the three characters we got to see more -the Hero, his Armin, and the strict busty captain- were completely flat and uninteresting. Don't think I'll be following this one.
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dtm42
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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:02 pm
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Snomaster1 wrote: | Well,I'm back! I,Snomaster1,have returned to the Anime Preview Guide. (sounds of groaning from everyone in the forums) |
Hey now, we wouldn't do that to our old friend Snomaster1, would we guys?
Guys?
(faint groaning sounds in background)
Oh.
Well, I guess that's the way it is. Sorry Sno but the tribe has spoken.
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nallen
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 12:32 am
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I think the show Prison School is better than some folks are giving it credit. It is definitely completely perverse, but I think actually surprisingly empathetic if you're willing to, well, be empathetic towards perversity. I'm basing my defense of three things:
1) Knowing adolescents,
2) Knowing grown men who are single and sad about it,
3) Knowing most of Louis C.K.'s standup, with specific reference to episode 2:8 ("Come On, God") of Louie, as well as the last ten minutes of his stand-up routine Louis CK: Live at the Beacon Theater.
Based on all those things, I think that a lot of men are "perverse" insomuch as they think about sex on a pretty frequent basis, in a manner that is often divorced from their opinion on the woman herself - as Louis CK says, there's this dichotomy in the minds of many men between a general and common desire for objectified "pussy", versus their personal interaction with an individual woman. For someone like Louis CK, this is a source of guilt - he wishes that he could have a normal interaction with a woman without thinking perverse stuff. I've actually heard that from men completely independent of the show, too.
Now, on top of that, you have a sense among a lot of adolescent boys and single men of aggrievement, like their sexuality is being repressed by women insomuch as women don't want to sleep with them and are repulsed by the perversions. This sexual frustration is an important source of the men's rights movement that seems to be rearing its head nowadays.
I think the characters in the show are caught between these emotional territories. The sense of grievance adolescent boys feel for the denial of their libido is expressed literally in their imprisonment. But at the same time, in the main character, I think there's a really clear sense of shame that pervades his entirety, that he knows this perversion is poisonous to his normal treatment of women, that he wishes he could wish that perversion away. The perversity of the men in the show is genuine, not cynical, just like the aversion the women feel towards it is also completely legitimate.
In scenes like the Go game between the four girls, the women discuss how gross guys are, as prompted by an absurd situation. But the discussion itself is legitimate - the two sides, that these men are sick and that these men aren't irredeemably terrible - are both true, and the show is open to displaying both sides. The perversity of guys is a really crappy thing to have to deal with on a frequent basis, and deserves punishment in many real world circumstances (train groping, all that terrible terrible stuff in India), but often punishments go unhanded. So a show where guys get beat up for objectifying women? Totally legitimate to me. On the other hand, though there are plenty of good guys even though they also frequently think about sex just for sex. That strikes me as really honest too.
So no matter how terrible the student body and the four other guys may be, scenes like these show how the show sees a legitimate origin in the nature of both sides, and even nuance within the genders.
So to me, the show was really funny, because it was a really raw and absurdist expression of something I've seen and heard before, of the raw stupidity of male sexuality, and how men and women end up dealing with it.
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Shippoyasha
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 4:40 am
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Prison School knows it's raunchy, it's completely over the top and it just revels in it. And I love the sheer honesty of it and I think people shouldn't take the 'objectification' element too seriously. Because the characters fully realize it's a risque and overly frank aspect of it is there largely for comedic reasons. It pushes the envelope so far as far as the fantasy goes, it actually feels liberating instead of dealing with shows that takes forever to ever to an intimate level. In that sense, shows like these shouldn't be taken as some serious lessons about dating or anything like that (well, unless a girl in question is okay with that kind of raunchy comedy and teasing like in this show as well).
It's a little weird to have to explain that when I feel the show already explains that well by itself.
As for God Eater, a definite showcase of CGI animation yet again. Still not quite as impressive as Etotama in my opinion, but it's up there. No telling if its story gets much more interesting, but it's at LEAST a major eye candy of the season, alongside Rokka and several others.
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Alan45
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:58 am
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@Snomaster1
You were gone? I hadn't realized. At any rate welcome back. I should point out that the competition for "most irritating unbanned forum member" Is fairly strong these days. Good luck.
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bassgs435
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:21 am
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CrowLia wrote: | If I thought Overlord was uncreative and boring, God Eater was a literal checklist of post-apocalyptic action tropes. What with the hero's burning desire to go kill whatever the monsters are called, the walled cities and the decimated humanity plot, it felt like a very poor man's Attack on Titan. The weapons and monster design felt uninspired, although the artstyle was kind of okay, I liked some of the characters' designs -particularly the elite guys that showed up at the end-, but as far as personalities, the three characters we got to see more -the Hero, his Armin, and the strict busty captain- were completely flat and uninteresting. Don't think I'll be following this one. |
I want to remind you that the God Eater videogame came out 5 months after Attack on Titan's manga debut, and the game spent several years in production before coming out.
Thus, it isn't a copy of AoT, because when they were planning the story for GE, AoT wasn't even out
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Zac
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:44 am
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Snomaster1 wrote: | The Anime Preview Guide hasn't seen the last of me! |
Thanks for the warning, I suppose, but if you come in here and intentionally try to irritate people or burst into histrionics (moreso than you already did with this post) I'm going to ban you again, so maybe you can stop yourself before you start.
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st_owly
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:33 am
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dtm42 wrote: |
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It's only faint because most of the audience walked up and left as soon as he came in.
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Key
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:17 am
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nallen: I found your argument interesting enough to read the whole thing, but I think you're giving the creators too much credit.
Shippoyasha wrote: | Prison School knows it's raunchy, it's completely over the top and it just revels in it. And I love the sheer honesty of it and I think people shouldn't take the 'objectification' element too seriously. Because the characters fully realize it's a risque and overly frank aspect of it is there largely for comedic reasons. It pushes the envelope so far as far as the fantasy goes, it actually feels liberating instead of dealing with shows that takes forever to ever to an intimate level. In that sense, shows like these shouldn't be taken as some serious lessons about dating or anything like that (well, unless a girl in question is okay with that kind of raunchy comedy and teasing like in this show as well). |
First off, I don't think anyone (or at least not anyone who is bashing the show) is interpreting that show as offering serious lessons about anything. And as someone who routinely completely watches through dedicated fan service shows, I could only see PS as "liberating" if you've ever looked at the old gag of female characters abusing male characters for being pervy and thought that it wasn't being played up enough.
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Hyperdrve
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:49 am
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Key wrote: |
nallen: I found your argument interesting enough to read the whole thing, but I think you're giving the creators too much credit. |
And also that user is talking nonsense. I'm surprised that no one pointed it out.
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Lord Dcast
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:34 am
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Looking back at this several weeks in, can't help but feel they were wrong about Shimoneta.
Guess a first episode really doesn't equal the rest of the show sometimes.
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Zac
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 12:58 pm
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Lord Dcast wrote: |
Guess a first episode really doesn't equal the rest of the show sometimes. |
From the intro:
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Please remember that this is a preview guide. It is designed to give you a taste of the first episode of a show with a preliminary opinion and a few thoughts on whether or not the show has potential. These are not intended to be blanket judgments of these series as a whole. |
I know the "i told you so" desire is almost uncontrollably strong but the disclaimer is right there.
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