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Nermal
 Posts: 223 Location: I was made to hit in America |
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I like the kitten
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Dorcas_Aurelia
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I think the phrasing in the "crap-to-gold ratio" compared to FF.net is backwards.
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TheVok
Posts: 613 Location: North York, Ontario, Canada |
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It doesn't really bother me, but ... now 'Hey, Answerfans!' is flakebaiting?
I think the true flakes are the unsolicited type .... |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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You're right. Fixed. |
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Key
Moderator
 Posts: 18175 Location: Indianapolis, IN (formerly Mimiho Valley) |
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Concerning the first message: why would I want American animation to look like anime? American series that try to ape anime style actually annoy me because they feel like copycats.
This strikes me as insulting to the professionalism of the American anime production industry and a blatant case of elitism. Everything I've heard from behind-the-scenes features about American VAs and production personnel indicates that they already do these sort of things. Concerning the new Answerfans topic: hmmm, I might actually have to write in something myself about that one. |
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sabriyahm
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Get rid of dubs? Why? The DVD's have the original Japanese with subs 99% of the time. What's the point. As far as watching Anime on TV w/subs.. That doesn't seem like a good idea financially. Which doesn't seem to bother the answerfan but if anime licensors all go broke and their stations go belly up how will I get my anime?
Zac as far as not being a fan, I consider that a plus. I am not sure I would trust your opinions and assesments if I thought your were an avid anime fan. When it comes to critical analysis a little bit of distance and objectivity is a good thing. |
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duo05001
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From the artical
"Finally, from "jeant": So, although I know perfectly well it'd be the kiss of death for sales, I'd be perfectly happy if all the dubs were eliminated." I guess but, I personally find watching the dubs before the subbed version makes the dubs sound better. A few examples would be Fullmetal Alchemist and Full Metal Panic!. I personally rather hear and watch whats going on rather then read and hear whats going on. I don't enjoy watching anime as much when I have to read it. Rurouni Kenshin Oh My God! I hated how Kenshin sounded in the Japanese. verson also Aoshi sounded like a little girl too. Also I understand at times charcters sound better in the Japanese. voices as well to note a few the entire cast of naruto, Rukia from bleach the entire cast of Eva and those are just a few I could come up wiht off the top of my head. |
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Neverwhere
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Am I crazy Zac, or did you just refer to the only fanfic I've ever actually looked at, Hearts of Ice, which I think I read in 1996 and still isn't finished yet?
Or it just an amusing coincidence.  After all, it's not as if any fanfic genre is lacking in the epic angstyness department...;- )
*nods in agreement* I was going to say exactly that, but you beat me to it. *grins* (Also, anyone who still watches Escaflowne definitely has a discerning eye for quality, regardless of whether or not they are an 'avid' fan. ;- ) I really look forward to reading your response next week Key 
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Splitter
 Posts: 1276 Location: Knockin' on Heaven's Door |
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Zac asking about moe? Someone feels a little masochistic this coming week, yes?
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Kenotic
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Wasn't that the script for the 2nd Ranma movie, just sans the angst? On to the "Moe" issue - I don't get it, I can't define it, and it seems like anything with a few female leads is considered "moe" these days. Speaking of Ranma 1/2, I remember the hoopla when it was oddly referred to as a "sex comedy" by Viz. I'm sure they'd pass it off as a Moe series these days. |
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Richard J.
 Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Is it just me or does it look like that kitten is talking to God?
Also, no offense Zac, but I think the column's a little weak this time. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but it just doesn't have the same punch as some of the past ones. The first question was just kind of silly, the second is rehash (you've pretty much said the same thing before), and the only thing I found interesting with the third is that I would like to know where I could get that printing equipment. I might be able to put book binding tech to good use. (Assuming I ever finish one of those novels I have rolling around in my vast and empty cranial cavity.) The flake was too stupid to even laugh at. I think a side-by-side analysis of Naruto would show that the level of editing/censorship is very low. (Hey, we'd all love to see completely uncensored everything, but it ain't happening any time soon regardless of who gets elected.) Although I got to admit, I like your response to that flake. Sick and twisted. My kind of answer. 
The answers are okay. Even though it was the shortest you posted, I really liked Binarysunset's answer. Faster releases and untouched product. Couldn't agree more. jeant's answer just sort of annoyed me, but that's mostly just because I'm an English dub fan and I found the last comment rather elitist. "Where's the otaku level in that?" Perhaps I'm just a fool, but I'd think the most important aspects of anime are the moving art and the story. The enjoyment of these is slightly hampered, at least in my opinion, by trying to read subtitles. At least this person (I hesitate to use a gender pronoun) didn't make some blanket "dubs suck" statement so much as a complete dismissal without much consideration. And again, that kitten looks like it is talking to God.
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ichiro3923
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I actually prefer the Japanese voice of Rorouni Kenshin and I have not heard the dub version, but I assume that the english voice actor sounds manly. Giving Kenshin a feminine voice kinda adds more character and makes him seem more peaceful and friendly, making it less likely for people to expect that he was once an assassin. That's my view anyway. First Answerfan Flake: the scene in Naruto where he cuts off Sasuke's head and made to his eyeball while screaming out the F word sounded so random that it was hillarious As for wanting American TV series to be like anime. There are shows that try to be anime like Teen Titans, Totally Spies, and Martin Mystery. Those shows even copy the usual overly-exagerated anime expressions such as a character flailing their arms rapidly while streams of tears are coming out of their eyes. It just ended up making it look more awkward. Last edited by ichiro3923 on Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:03 am; edited 1 time in total |
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jsevakis
Former ANN Editor in Chief
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(insert bitter laugh here) True to an extent, and definitely the self-image the industry likes putting out there, but there are plenty of people in the industry that really don't give a shit about anime at all. I've seen it mostly in the dubbing circles, where many VA's are embittered out-of-work stage and/or screen actors, and many directors/engineers are embittered out-of-work musicians. I've even seen some people who have a genuine resentment for the stuff. You would be shocked at how widespread this is, and is the reason whole shows were produced where the VA's literally show up not knowing who they're playing, walk in the booth, give a couple line reads, first take that matches lip flap is kept, and they move on. Granted, that was years ago. The lack of money in the industry seems to have weeded out most of those people; only the true fans are masochistic enough to still be in the industry. (Maybe this is why dubs are generally good today despite all the budget cuts?) And frankly, I've seen fans-cum-professionals do a measurably worse job than the reluctant pros.
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Cowboy Cadenza
Posts: 243 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY |
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Murasakisuishou
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That was an interesting question about publishing fanfiction. I've been there myself (well, sort of); about a year ago I wrote a fairly decent 6 chapter fanfic about a really, really minor character from Shaman King and put it up on the internet, then also showed it to some family members and adult friends. I was encouraged by a couple of people to get it published, but I had to explain that I couldn't because of copyright. I've also been encouraged to switch the names around so I can get it published, but dammit, the story is about the character it's about, not someone else.
When you think about it, what's to stop someone from judging a published fanfic the same way they'd judge a novel? To go through a publisher, one would probably have to meet certain standards, which would probably weed out the 400 page angst-tastic Ranma 1/2 fanfics. Like doujin, it wouldn't be about capitalizing on something that wasn't yours, but sharing your art and maybe making a few bucks in the process. |
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