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NEWS: Nintendo CEO: Switch Expected to Move 2 Million Units in 1st Month

0nsen wrote:

It simultaneously seems like the number is too low/high. Maybe this is Nintendos way of saying "Please buy it this time, pretty please". But I won't. They're release cycles are too short for my tastes. It's obvious they don't go after high end graphics, so why update the console at all? I'd still buy Game Cube games. Or Snes. But I'll be damned to buy another console and then only get about six years of support before it's basically obsolete. They should go back to what they did with the original Game Boy. Introduced 1989 and succeeded in 1998 if you count the Game Boy Color, which I don't, since it was crap. And succeeded in 2001 by the GBA. 12 years. Upgrading the console without updating the graphics to par feels just like they cheat me. I get all the drawbacks of having to buy a new system without any of the benefits of shiny new graphics. (Instead Nintendo delivers stupid gimmicks which nobody can figure out how to make use of.)

Maybe if you actually buy the console before they announce the next one you'd have more than 6 months of support. You said you'd still buy GameCube games, yet the GameCube had the shortest lifespan (5 years) until the Wii U (4.5 years). You want them to update the graphics, but then say you'd rather they not update a system for 10+ years like back in the NES and Gameboy days. Make up your mind.

Here's a surprise, they DO update the graphics every generation. The GameCube to Wii was the smallest jump but even then it was a noticeable difference. I'd argue that a new console that does nothing more than update its graphics to be the cheap way out. Anyone can figure out how to put shiny new piece of hardware together, it's how you upgrade PCs. It takes actual creativity to try and invent new ways to play games and I appreciate that from Nintendo.

Introduced 1989 and succeeded in 1998 if you count the Game Boy Color, which I don't, since it was crap.

Edit: The one thing I'm surprised at (or not) is the lack of backwards compatibility of neither the WiiU nor the 3DS. But I suppose they want to launch this into another generation of Nintendo consoles.

It takes actual creativity to try and invent new ways to play games and I appreciate that from Nintendo.

Here's a surprise, they DO update the graphics every generation. The GameCube to Wii was the smallest jump but even then it was a noticeable difference. I'd argue that a new console that does nothing more than update its graphics to be the cheap way out. Anyone can figure out how to put shiny new piece of hardware together, it's how you upgrade PCs. It takes actual creativity to try and invent new ways to play games and I appreciate that from Nintendo.

They better start hyping it up and showing some games. Where is their marketing?

Loveless100 wrote:

Edit: The one thing I'm surprised at (or not) is the lack of backwards compatibility of neither the WiiU nor the 3DS. But I suppose they want to launch this into another generation of Nintendo consoles.

I know I'm beating a dead horse at this point but why would the Switch be BC with the 3DS when this was never something Nintendo was shooting for?

Yen50414 wrote:

Here's a surprise, they DO update the graphics every generation. The GameCube to Wii was the smallest jump but even then it was a noticeable difference. I'd argue that a new console that does nothing more than update its graphics to be the cheap way out. Anyone can figure out how to put shiny new piece of hardware together, it's how you upgrade PCs. It takes actual creativity to try and invent new ways to play games and I appreciate that from Nintendo.

And what's funny is that the consoles that do nothing but upgrade graphics are horrendously boring. Seriously, the jump from the PS3/360 to the PS4/XB1 is the least dramatic and dullest in history. There has yet to be a big "the one title" that truly sells this generation. For the SNES era it was stuff like Super Mario World and The Legend of Zelda. PS1/N64, FFVII, Mario 64, Ocarina of Time. PS2/XBox/GC, MGS2, GTAIII, FFX, DMC, Halo, Smash Bros Melee, it was bloody smorgasbord. For last gen it was stuff like Mario Kart Wii, SSBB, Call of Duty IV, Bioshock, and Mass Effect.

We are now four years into the current gen and there still isn't a defining game that justifies the current gen. At least not for the PS4/XB1. Nintendo at least had stuff like Smash Bros, Splatoon, Xenoblade X, Super Mario Maker, The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart, and Hyrule Warriors. And on the handheld side there's stuff like Kid Icarus, Monster Hunter, SMTIV, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Yo-Kai Watch, the new Pokemon, etc. Meanwhile Sony, MS, and 3rd parties are really caught in creative stagnation and just can't figure out how to make the current gen seem like anything but the same as last time but shinier, with less content and more shallow. Maybe if developers and the console makers started to go beyond just power upgrades gaming could finally get out of its awkward puberty and start being creative again.

We are now four years into the current gen and there still isn't a defining game that justifies the current gen. At least not for the PS4/XB1. Nintendo at least had stuff like Smash Bros, Splatoon, Xenoblade X, Super Mario Maker, The Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2, Tokyo Mirage Sessions, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart, and Hyrule Warriors. And on the handheld side there's stuff like Kid Icarus, Monster Hunter, SMTIV, Fire Emblem, Bravely Default, Yo-Kai Watch, the new Pokemon, etc. Meanwhile Sony, MS, and 3rd parties are really caught in creative stagnation and just can't figure out how to make the current gen seem like anything but the same as last time but shinier, with less content and more shallow. Maybe if developers and the console makers started to go beyond just power upgrades gaming could finally get out of its awkward puberty and start being creative again.

You want them to update the graphics, but then say you'd rather they not update a system for 10+ years like back in the NES and Gameboy days. Make up your mind.

0nsen wrote:

Introduced 1989 and succeeded in 1998 if you count the Game Boy Color, which I don't, since it was crap.

How !? I mean the system's only real drawback was that of course it wasn't backlit like the GBA SP would ultimately be but getting to play games in color was a novel feature.

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...bunch of games released across the Wii U and 3DS that weren't all that creative if all..

Only if you didn't know about the GameGear, which was released in 1990, eight years before the GBC. And the GameGear still had better graphics than the GBC.

Going "nuh-uh!" is not an argument.

Furthermore, this is what I mean about "defining a generation":

All the first party titles on the WiiU like The Wonderful 101, Xenoblade X,

Splatoon, and Hyrule Warriors, from a gameplay perspective,

could not have been done on the previous hardware.''

They showed off some new gameplay innovation or did something beyond graphics that made it clear this upgrade was necessary.

The PS4 and XB1 don't have that.

Four years in and they still don't have something like a DMC,

a GTAIII,

an MGS2,

or an FFVII.

They legitimately are just incremental upgrades as even from a technical perspective

they lack that as there's nothing besides shinier textures they've used the hardware for. And it's possible this isn't the hardware's fault as there is a lot of POTENTIAL in the PS4/XB1,

but there hasn't been anything that's taken true advantage of them. You can give someone the best tools in the world but it means nothing if they don't use them properly.

You'd think after developers made such noise about getting a new generation they'd do everything to justify its existence, but instead of really just goofed around and done "second verse, same as the first."

0nsen wrote:

Only if you didn't know about the GameGear, which was released in 1990, eight years before the GBC. And the GameGear still had better graphics than the GBC.

I had both and the Gamegear and the Gameboy Color and the Gamegear in all honesty? it was trash it's easily among one of the worse things Sega ever made. It was basically a pocket sized master system with horrid battery life whereas the Nomad to it's credit at least let you play Genesis games on the go with probably equally horrid battery life.

I had both and the Gamegear and the Gameboy Color and the Gamegear in all honesty? it was trash