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The problem people are talking about with Dragon Maid is NOT that it's a homosexual relationship between children. No, by all means, this is perfectly fine. The problem is that it's objectifying a child's body.

The problem people are talking about with Dragon Maid is NOT that it's a homosexual relationship between children. No, by all means, this is perfectly fine. The problem is that it's objectifying a child's body.

ParaChomp wrote:

The problem people are talking about with Dragon Maid is NOT that it's a homosexual relationship between children. No, by all means, this is perfectly fine. The problem is that it's objectifying a child's body.

You are out of your f-u-c-k-i-n-g mind. And then you've got to ask yourselves why the mainstream at large considers anime fandom a bunch of freaking perverts and pedophiles.

If the girls are in kindergarten, none of that is "perfectly fine".

Way too freaking young.

You are out of your f-u-c-k-i-n-g mind. And then you've got to ask yourselves why the mainstream at large considers anime fandom a bunch of freaking perverts and pedophiles.

It's not really the "homosexual relationship" aspect of it that people are bothered by, though, it's the "relationship" aspect. It obviously doesn't automatically make it more "perverted" just because they are both girls.

Having a very strong relationship is fine.

Kanna actually LOOKS like a five-year-old though....so you can imagine why people find that creepy. After viewing the Twister clip for myself, I think that shoving a little girl's face into another little girl's butt "for the lulz" is definitely uncalled for. Same with Kanna bouncing on the bed with her legs spread wide so Riko can take a good long look at her panties.

Yup. Creepy. True, they didn't get really tasteless with showing the audience what Riko saw but....they could maybe choose to not write that in the first place?

CK, you overstate the case by saying emphatically, "...If a loli character is introduced in any show that is not pokemon level kids stuff, she is going to be exploited in some way to some greater or lesser degree."

Bunny Drop, Sweetness and Lightning, the two Non Non Biyori seasons and Barakamon are all examples of shows where loli characters were front and centre and there wasn't even the slightest whiff of inappropriateness. You simply do not watch enough anime to be making these kind of blanket statements. Not that that is going to stop you, of course.

For anyone who actually watches anime, it is understood that the primary function of most loli characters is for the kawaii. Yes, there are examples of when a sexualized element is introduced as, lamentably, Dragon Maid recently did, but to assert that this is uniform industry practise is ridiculous.

"...If a loli character is introduced in any show that is not pokemon level kids stuff, she is going to be exploited in some way to some greater or lesser degree."

Wow, what a catalogue of fuzzy, vague, unsupported statements. I reacted to your original statement that:

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"...If a loli character is introduced in any show that is not pokemon level kids stuff, she is going to be exploited in some way to some greater or lesser degree."

You were pretty emphatic on that point. I then cited a number of shows where that was emphatically not true. Not just shows were the loli characters were exploited "in some way to some greater or lesser degree" but where there was ZERO degree of exploitation. Of course, you are in no position to either agree or disagree with my assessment since you haven't actually seen those shows ... a state of affairs that pertains to probably 99% of anime's output over the last 5 years, not that will stop you from making sweeping generalizations, of course.

As I said in my previous post, it is not my contention to say that the sexualization of lolis doesn't exist in anime - it does. Its just that it's not this all pervasive trope that you - a person who doesn't actually watch much anime - would have us believe.

Oh, by the way, the reviewer who commented on "Listen to Me Girls, I'm Your Father" propensity to show the loli character eating "dick-shaped" foods was Bamboo Dong. And reading a comment like that without - as I did - watching the entire show to completion would give you an entirely misconceived view of how the loli character was handled. Believe me, any perv who seeks out the title because of hopes that character was played for "rowrs" would be severely disappointed. Despite that, it's still not a show I would include in my list of "zero" loli inappropriateness like the ones above.

In 2016, I watched 77 currently airing TV shows to completion. 2010 was the first year I got seriously into watching currently airing TV shows and I only watched 36 to completion. My total has gone up every year since then. In other words, my ability to assess anime tropes is SIGNIFICANTLY more fact based than your own. And I'm here to tell you that examples of sexualized lolis are fairly rare. Now, if you think I'm full of it, please provide me a list of shows that proves otherwise.

In addition to eating dick-shaped foods, the loli character was the completely innocent target of inappropriate interest by both an adult male and female character. Thankfully, she was blissfully unaware of this and nothing in her own behaviour indicated any kind of inappropriate interest.