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EP. REVIEW: DARLING in the FRANXX

It'll likely be saying "boys and girls should get along" (to be highly reductive), just as children and adults are necessary parts of life, alongside humans and other species.

jdnation wrote:

It'll likely be saying "boys and girls should get along" (to be highly reductive), just as children and adults are necessary parts of life, alongside humans and other species.

I think what you might be missing here is that a good portion of the people who have already written this show off as a complete waste of time are pretty much resigned to this being the show's message. For fans of theme-heavy shows, that disappointment has much less to do with whether they "agree" or "disagree" with the message itself (as some in this thread have put it), and much more to do with whether this kind of message lives up to virtually everything Trigger has had a hand in over the years.

In terms of the gender politics stuff you're talking about, well... I really don't expect the GLBT anime community to care much either way whether the show ends up "affirming heteronormativity" or whatever. By the time this show wraps up, attentions will likely have already completely shifted towards Back Street Girls-related discussion, followed by Sarazanmai.

I personally hope it sticks to the 'hetero-normative' whatchamacallit. The 'inclusivity' appeal just seems to be a demand for forcing equalism between things that essentially are not equal and can never be; all just to assuage the new climate of social experimentation that the current stage of culture is obsessed with, imagining it can reinvent the wheel. Something the show thankfully highlights that people like to pretend isn't significant.

jdnation wrote:

I personally hope it sticks to the 'hetero-normative' whatchamacallit. The 'inclusivity' appeal just seems to be a demand for forcing equalism between things that essentially are not equal and can never be; all just to assuage the new climate of social experimentation that the current stage of culture is obsessed with, imagining it can reinvent the wheel. Something the show thankfully highlights that people like to pretend isn't significant.

I think the show is inclusive in the traditional sense of the word but it doesn't promote certain politically correct messages. The people that are hoping for anti-family or anti-marriage messages are likely to be disappointed. Also for radical social ideologies it is less about reinventing the wheel and more about burning the wheel into ashes and than hoping that a better wheel rises from those ashes.

It'll likely be saying "boys and girls should get along" (to be highly reductive), just as children and adults are necessary parts of life, alongside humans and other species.

In the Franxx, the girls wear that wataboshi-like thing which symbolizes marriage; the central, most pivotal foundation of human life.

Basically. The underlying theme to everything in the anime seems to be an exploration of the relationship between men and women. In the Franxx, the girls wear that wataboshi-like thing which symbolizes marriage; the central, most pivotal foundation of human life. So, it's about balance, harmony between the sexes, the complementary roles each have, yin and yang, etc.

I still really don't get where the "women need to be reigned in by the man" idea comes from

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I still really don't get where the "women need to be reigned in by the man" idea comes from

From the fact that, when a woman tries to operate the FRANXX without a dude, she goes into berserk, and the robot loses its humanoid form to turn into an animal. Then it'll regain the human form when a man takes the reins and calms the woman down. It's as on the nose as it gets

From the fact that, when a woman tries to operate the FRANXX without a dude, she goes into berserk, and the robot loses its humanoid form to turn into an animal. Then it'll regain the human form when a man takes the reins and calms the woman down. It's as on the nose as it gets

Sentinel_Wraith wrote:

#3. The vitrol for Ichigo was not that she was trying to protect Hiro, but that she intentionally manipulated the squad and Zero-Two into a position that was romantically advantageous for her. The second that she threw herself all over Hiro and started trying to make out with him while he was utterly broken was terribly wrong and people were rightly offended. The fact she did that right in front of her partner while crying out about how she would only ride with Hiro was wrong. Furthermore, she was perfectly fine with the deaths of the other stamens as long as her guy was ok...and that's not right either. Again, while this series has been giving some of the issues a pass, it's also important to remember the broken context of the society and the examples set for the characters by the adults.

How was it wrong for her to do those things infront of Goro? I mean yes it was wrong in the context that Hiro was emotionally broken however Ichigo doesn't owe goro anything. Goro and Ichigo are only partners in a Franxxx because they are compatible to pilot together not because they are lovers. In fact Goro only confessed to Ichigo to move past her, knowing since they were kids that Ichigo only looked at Hiro and wouldn't look at anyone else.

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I still really don't get where the "women need to be reigned in by the man" idea comes from

From the fact that, when a woman tries to operate the FRANXX without a dude, she goes into berserk, and the robot loses its humanoid form to turn into an animal. Then it'll regain the human form when a man takes the reins and calms the woman down. It's as on the nose as it gets

do anyone here believe that those "death threats" that was given to the staff are the primary reasons for ichigo's 180 aka her redemption tour?

i sure think so!