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Harleyquin



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:35 pm Reply with quote
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I didn't think this series would have fanservice, but this episode is the closest the series gets to that particular 18+ motif.

Interesting that a miracle of resurrection requires a virgin and a spellcaster. Looks like the party made it back in time before Goblin Slayer gave out. The flashback he had was an interesting one; I had thought the one speaking out to him when he was briefly unconscious was one of the gods, turns out it was his "Master" who most likely trained him in all the arts of goblin killing. What's even more surprising is the Master looks no different from a goblin himself.

I wonder how the Goblin Slayer is going to apply his newly acquired knowledge regarding the creation of ice cream in the arts of goblin killing.

This week's action set piece is against something other than goblinkind for once. The beholder is a worthy foe but the Goblin Slayer's use of flour is an entertaining and flashy way of resolving the impasse. Now that they're in front of some kind of (enchanted?) mirror, what's coming up next? Title is about going and coming back, so is it a portal to someplace else?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:51 am Reply with quote
What do you know, they fought a Beholder. Well, I am calling a shallow interpretation of a Beholder. A Beholder is meant to be more than a floating creature with eyestalks, an anti-magic cone and disintegration beam. Add in 9 other beams, with a chaotic unpredictable nature combined with a superior intellect, which it spends its time going over its ego and preparing for any situation that its crazy mind can come up with. It just standing there, is kind of disappointing. I did seem that they were not allowed to use the name for it.

Other piece of interest, is the showing of someone who trained Goblin Slayer. The answer to his last riddle of what was in his pocket, has a particular allusion come to mind. The identity of the nature of that man has a coupe questions. One was the possibility of being a goblin himself, although not a quite one to one. My current more preferred theory, which will likely be proven wrong from thinking to much, was the possibility of a god, which to be honest came to my thought by a sound effect that might not have meant anything. It kind of sounded like a dice rolling at one point, which have been hinted as representation of the gods, although it may have just been a rock.

Lastly, it sounded like Goblin Slayer is not without fear, him mentioning that he is actually very much filled with fear, so much so that he recalls being too afraid to move over just moving. So he has had to overcome a lot.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:37 pm Reply with quote
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So the mystery behind the sudden appearance of the goblins is solved this week. The whole episode is framed around the final showdown in the mirror room as the Goblin Slayer and party fend off the final assault. Compared to the visceral gore and carnage of the previous showdown involving the Goblin Champion, this week's set-piece is almost cerebral in the methodical way the Goblin Slayer whittles down the chaff and then finishes the job with the help of the mirror's protection.

The priestess has a good heart, she asked the Goblin Slayer to report to the Sword Maiden to put her at ease. He intended to question her anyway regarding the strange circumstances surrounding the Water Town, but got a bit more than he bargained for. I don't envy the Maiden's dilemma; she can't make her situation public because of her social position yet she couldn't hide in her church forever while the Champion went about laying the groundwork for an eventual town assault. Just as well she hired the perfect specialist to resolve a problem she couldn't handle on her own.

I'm disappointed the Goblin Slayer is using his newly acquired knowledge from last week to just treat his fellow adventurers to dairy ice cream. I was hoping to see some kind of flash freeze trick against another nest of goblins.

Not many episodes to go for a one-season adaptation, so I wonder what's remaining before the series draws to a close. No announcement yet for a second season, so enjoy it while it lasts.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:13 am Reply with quote
Well, Goblin Slayer does live on a dairy farm. Might even be a chance to give something to Cowgirl to have more business. And perhaps also a means of it being experiments until he can find a weapon application.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:40 am Reply with quote
I think I missed something here.

What exactly was Goblin Slayer accusing the Sword Maiden of? Did she somehow contribute to the goblin situation or deliberately let it get out of hand? That whole conversation was really unclear to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:29 am Reply with quote
Yeah, I was really confused too, I had to think about it for some time for what I could figure out what the deal was. What I think was happening, was that the set up down there was something made by the previous demon lord, but he never put it into full effect because he was killed, something she had figured out from the fact she should know from things like there being a guardian. Perhaps because it was demon lord related, concerning her reputation should have meant that she be personally involved in undoing it, but she has been too affected by her trauma with goblins, so she was too afraid. She then hid how much she was aware of, and passed it off as just rumours of goblins, so she could buck it off to a specialist, so no one would see that she could be so terrified by something like goblins.

I don't know if it is accurate. But I think that the comment that Goblin Slayer said about not being able to actually understand her, goes into what we learned is that Goblin Slayer is very much afraid, and does not let that stop him from acting. She did seem to make some passing reference to the priestess. Perhaps there was something about Priestess also sticks to it, despite she is very at risk to the same horrible repercussions that befall the one of the greatest adventurers and still haunts her.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:08 pm Reply with quote
#10

Another of the quiet expository episodes which bridges one story arc to the next. Viewers learn a little more about what happened the day before the village massacre, while side characters like the Paladin get a rare outing. If anything, the episode seems more focused on what's going in the wider Goblin Slayer universe, as the great showdown between the Hero's party and the Demon God is concluded.

It's amusing so few people in the village recognise the Goblin Slayer when he's out and about without his signature equipment. Even the Spear Wielder who's normally so hostile towards him drops his guard and has a normal conversation, all the while not realising the man's true identity despite the stereotypical deadpan voice and curt replies. His partner on the other hand recognises who the man behind the helmet is. While they're at it, talk of the training hall to get greenhorn adventurers up to scratch in the wilderness brings the conversation round to what the Goblin Slayer is going to do if he survives long enough to retirement.

The last scene: the Uncle may think his tenant to be a paranoid obsessive, but showing him the tracks should be enough to change his mind. Looks like the remnants of the evil army are making a move.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:42 am Reply with quote
I am not the most LotR knowledgeable, but considering all the references, maybe like the attack on the Shire?

My brother told me the episode was boring, so I lowered my expectations, but in the end I quite enjoyed the episode. I am the type of person that often finds the little things in-between the big adventures as being some of the best. Not all about slaying, but is what gives reason for all the fighting against monsters.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:13 pm Reply with quote
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The final arc, there won't be a more fitting way to end this adaptation than to see the Goblin Slayer take on a veritable army of goblins. Pragmatic as he is, even he realised he had no chance taking on the horde alone and had to ask for help. Fortunately he's banked enough credit with the people he knows to commission an army of his own to deal with the invasion.

After the preparation is complete, it's a long sequence of methodical goblin slaying. Thanks to his long experience and meticulous planning, the first phase is overcome with no casualties. It's when the hobgoblins turn up that the adventurers start taking things seriously and withdraw the less experienced members.

While all of it is ongoing, the Slayer is going for the King himself. It should be a fitting duel to end the series, but I'm a little worried about next week's episode title. It's a grim world the Slayer and his companions inhabit, but I'm hoping they've left room for a future adaptation.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 6:42 am Reply with quote
Just what we needed, a show of adventurer spirit. I will probably go into more next week about the ties this has to tabletop games, but I think that it is important to have it point out that adventurers in the sense of this series are not just mercenaries, but be the sort of characters people write up to, well adventure in fantasy worlds. Just like with a certain scene in Log Horizon, there is a certain comradery that goes beyond just for the gold, although of course some rewards help. Honesty, I would kind of hope that the guild could afford the funds for setting up an incentive to protect the cities.

In the battle there was this certain synergy to the fight, that felt right in line with the sort of table top game, with Goblin Slayer setting up the game plan. Outside look at this, there was a particular video released not too long ago that said something about this series kind of had an inaccuracy for really being like a D&D game, and that is the plans tend to go off without a hitch, while if you ever watched an actual game, always expect that something will go wrong. But I do think there is a certain satisfaction to feel from this series that things go well together.

Total cool moment when asked where he was in the battle, and the obvious answer being that he is slaying Goblins, clearly going for the king himself.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:25 pm Reply with quote
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For the finale, the long-awaited duel between the Goblin Lord and the Goblin Slayer. Interestingly enough, the Lord can speak and understand the same language used by the adventurers. I suppose surviving enough and adapting gives even the lowliest goblin the opportunity to make it big, especially after seeing what appears to be flashbacks of the Lord's career to date.

As expected of the Slayer, he never leaves things to chance. He even predicted he'd be incapable of finishing the job on his own so he asked the Priestess to tag along with a plan to execute. Again he ends up having to pay for repairs, but he survives the encounter and deals the finishing blow with the Priestess playing the crucial role (which he sportingly accepts by giving her the pay).

Ironically, the Priestess's request to see the Slayer without his helmet on gets (most) of the adventurers in a tizzy but viewers still don't see his eyes or the rest of his face beyond the chin and profile. He's handsome, if the adventurers raving about him are anything to go by. Outside of the Magician, Paladin and Blacksmith no one really connected the helmet with the actual face, which reinforces the Slayer's character and personality.

The best news of all: there's going to be another adaptation. When it will air is up in the air, but I'll be looking forward to it when the announcement is made in the future. It's been entertaining seeing the Goblin Slayer (and party) make mincemeat of goblins and overcome various challenges along the way without making everything look like a cakewalk.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:47 pm Reply with quote
It would have only mad sense that the final battle kind of put Goblin Slayer as the goblin to the goblins. The goblin lord running away afraid, small flashes to his past, and then GS comes, the lord was stronger, but was outdone by a kind of dirty trick from an opponent he could not see. Gutsy move to show the lord crying and begging for mercy, but there is nothing for him, as priestess won't flinch, and GS is used to it. And adventurer party, that GS thinks that it might be kind of nice, and he wants to join this whole adventurer thing, better than he has, and Priestess manages to get him to show himself and excite everyone. I think it maybe good to think of Priestess as a sort of little sister and such. So good news that we will get more.

To talk about the show in general, I of course liked it, and generally I have seen that it is popular. Honestly, a good fantasy can be hard to come by, the kind that makes RPGs so popular, and this let itself be kind of dark and mature, that gave it a sense of authenticity, without feeling too melodramatic. As a general rule, I think that the idea of relying on something like rape as to get attention and look edgy, is wrong. It is a gross use of something that is horrible, and should not be made simply a prop, and it runs a big risk of maybe even coming off like it is used for titillation. But Goblin Slayer treated it as serious, with serious responses from character, and acknowledgement of scars. It is easy to think a fantasy show might take some of its themes too lightly, and in a way that might come across as disrespectful.

That is why, while a good centre of the show of the titular Goblin Slayer as being awesome, I think it had been just as important to have strong female characters. Especially the likes of Priestess, who we are told early on has come to a very grim understanding to the whole thing, and the whole disempowerment that might be faced in actually following Goblin Slayer on his journey, but she dis so anyway. She never feels like the plot just makes her awesome and understandable, but she uses what she has, maybe gets terrified still, but she fights on because she sees it as working with Goblin Slayer is worth doing. Ignoring awesome sword power, I think that is strength. Her later joined by the likes of High Elf Archer, several side characters, and even the hero was apparently a woman. Despite some of its themes, I think that it actually avoids a fearful trope men must protect women.

Saying it now, I put this series among my favourite fantasy shows, along the likes of Grimgar, which I know is not a very popular show, but I see these two as hitting similar notes. It takes sort of RPG fantasy like world, and then adds these details that feel like they are lived in, and you could be there. Honestly I love those sorts of things, I wish most fantasy did as well as this. It played really well with its animation to its music. The opening is the perfect mood setter, and it has honestly never felt unearned with what it does. Don't know if it is a happy coincidence that short swords, GS's preferred weapon use D6 for damage, which show up when he strikes. Hey, I am a D&D fan, or other fantasy series like Lord of the Rings, and there were many references without feeling like it was leaning too hard.

I give a rating of Excellent (9/10), at the risk of sounding silly, this is my jam. Add just a bit more things like separate cultures to the different races, and maybe some economics of sorts, and it is the sort of thing I would call perfect. That is the oddball that I am. Look forward to any continuation.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:23 am Reply with quote
I recently caught up with this show and I liked it enough to rate it Good. It was nice to see the main character slowly opening up to people. The goblins were depicted as so ridiculously evil and one-dimensional that it made them a bit hard to take seriously at times. Otherwise it was a fun adventure that ended up being more positive than I was expecting it to be.
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Movie (Goblin's Crown)

So this came out on Crunchyroll, movies are fairly rare on the platform, although out of its 1 hour 25 minute run the first 25 minutes was a recap. A little disappointing because it feels like the rest of the movie was rushed in areas, it did feel like it was part of a longer story that was squished down a bit to cut down on things like explanations. It kind of felt a little bit awkward in areas like where the spoiler[goblin shaman being killed was not part of the original plan].

I did enjoy my time, because new Goblin Slayer is great. Probably my favourite part of the movie was just Priestess and High Elf Archer talking to each other about differences of life spans, I liked seeing HEA talking about her perspective, and apparently left her homeland on a whim. Certainly the sort of thing I like seeing in some fantasy. I also enjoyed the whole relationship thing with the addition of Noble Fencer, having a trio of girls. Probably my headcannon more with how Noble Fencer might feel about the Priestess.

The least favourite bit, probably how it felt vague in several parts for how the Goblins were supposed to be adapting quickly, and other parts that don't feel like they were given room to breathe. It has been a while since I have watched the show, but oddly with playing Doom Eternal earlier this year I kept thinking of the Doom Slayer, just me being silly.

My rating is Good (7/10), not the highest of my feelings towards the series, but I still think it is worth watching, whether you want to skip past the first 25 minutes or not. I believe even opening credits showed at that point.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:32 am Reply with quote
Chat from the Japanese fans suggested the movie wasn't going to be very satisfying because of its length. After watching this, I can see why. It's been mentioned already, but the first twenty five minutes or so are a recap of the first season. Useful for casual viewers, but I would have preferred a full length movie catering to those already familiar with what had aired before.

As for the actual movie, I wanted a bare minimum of seeing goblins slain in the most creative and ruthless ways imaginable. I got it, but still felt shortchanged. Those extra 25 minutes uses as a recap could have been used on more action scenes of some kind, but with the story flow as depicted it would have been hard to write in. One thing which I did like about the movie was its depiction of the consequences of underestimating the "weakest" prey for fledgling adventurers; the lady fencer being a case in point. Without the Priestess on hand to keep her demons at bay, she would have cost the Goblin Slayer and his party their lives and more had they lost the confrontation.

As always, the goblin leaders always give the titular Slayer plenty to think about. He beat a Lord at the end of the first season, this time it is a Paladin he has to face off with. Like the previous fight, he was outmatched in a full-frontal duel, but his long experience (a decade!) means he always has something up his sleeve to use against goblins (who hopefully haven't evolved to the point his tricks don't work on them).

The Goblin Slayer's achievements are always overshadowed by more illustrious adventurers, but his annihilation of a nest intent on learning the secrets of the blacksmith gives years worth of peace to unsuspecting nearby villages. The lady fencer may retire for good, but she'll hopefully take up a path which will help the Slayer on his travels. On the plus side, the Slayer's reputation is beginning to precede him (the village recognised who he was once they saw the dogtag while the objective of the mission figured out who he was almost immediately). Even if he is doomed to die in his quest for goblin genocide, he'll be remembered by more than just his immediate companions and his neighbours.

Bring on another season please!
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