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xBTAx
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What is this “smear campaign” and “yaoi contingent”? This just reads like you’re continuing to dismiss people - who I’m guessing, given the people who tend to read yoai, were young women - who had legitimate issues with him. The story that’s often brought up - him lying about a creator telling him a character he voiced is totally not gay - is indeed him being homophobic. It’s a small, petty act of homophobia on his part, but homophobia regardless.
How is this “outta nowhere”? This is a pretty big thing happening around the anime “community” on social media currently. It’s getting a lot of traction. It’s not being reported now due to nothing; it’s something that merits attention. Not to mention that it’s also not “outta nowhere” in that stories about him have been shared for over a decade. This has been building up since then and finally blew up in the past few weeks. It is totally reasonable to research it and report on it. And, to be honest, if you think this is just about how “big a dick he is” I don’t think you quite understand the issue at here. |
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stuffb
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I swear, if we starting hearing the "ethics in anime journalism" nonsense... Maybe it's just me, but I didn't read an article that calls for somebody to be blackballed for being a conservative Christian. Given that both Sentai and Funimation are based in Texas, it's not going to be a huge surprise if there conservative Christians who work at or with either of those firms. More relevant here: I read a fairly length story about what appear to be someone's actions at anime conventions that included photos, with sourced statements from the individuals in the photos. I'm pretty sure that's news that would be relevant to anime... |
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Daisylock
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Back in 2011, Sean Schemmel put his hand under my skirt at Anime Midwest It happened in a hallway after one of his panels. This doesn't have anything to do with Vic Mignogna, but it seemed appropriate to share it in this thread.
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Aresef
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Christianity, specifically evangelism, doesn't go hand in hand with the sort of things he is being accused of, nor does it excuse the sorts of things he is being accused of.
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AiddonValentine
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Anime After Dark panels have had voice actors admit (on multiple occasions) that if it weren't for them being worried about their careers, they would spill their guts about Vic in an instant. The guy is essentially an A-lister in the industry, he has connections and influence |
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WashuTakahashi
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This is pretty much how I feel. Yeah, he did some questionable things, especially now that we're looking back on these events with MeToo very fresh in our minds, but I don't think it was anything bad enough to warrant this witch hunt. That's not to say I think he's completely innocent and he should own up to the fact that people perceived his actions differently than he may have intended them, but I don't think this is worth people messing with his very livelihood. Last edited by WashuTakahashi on Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:44 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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xBTAx
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He absolutely has a lot of power; he doesn’t need any influence to have it. Even in this thread, people talked about how when they were younger, they wanted to marry him. The article goes into how dedicated his fan club is, even now. That form of idolization is absolutely a source of power- who cares about any influence he could wield as a threat, when talking to him is seen as a gift, a sign of you being special to him? A power imbalance doesn’t have to just be “I can make or break your ability to find work”, it can be making use of the pedestal someone’s been placed on to twist their target into thinking something horrifying is acceptable, even outright good, when it’s really not. It is extremely generous to assume that a grown man was just kindly trying to fit in like this, for over a decade, especially given the context of the stories about his other behavior- he clearly thinks of himself as someone very important, and certainly isn’t afraid to turn conversations sexual. I know you mean well, but I would suggest thinking through how reasonable you actually think that is. |
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Aresef
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And a couple voice actors have gone on Twitter and liked tweets or tweeted things themselves indicating that, in their view, the stories are true. |
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Lactobacillus yogurti
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This reminded me of the whole Illich Guardiola situation. Not completely the same, but still bad.
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stuffb
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Maybe? On the other hand, is there really a long track record of actual facts to support that? The reporting in the article didn't really draw any conclusions on that point; if anything, it seemed like the reporting was diligent in pointing out that there was controversy, and a lot of comments from the fan community, but a bit of a disagreement on that point. My opinion here: yes - the "hate the sinner/love the sin" ideology can be pretty destructive. And realistically - both Sentai and Funimation are based in Texas. There are going to be a fair number of people who work with either firm who might be conservative. If they are decent enough people, treat their fans and coworkers with respect, and make a product that we enjoy, then their beliefs are something personal to them that really don't have much of an impact on the consumption of anime. The issue that would seem most pressing to, say...the staff at a convention would probably be whether or not a participant would be engaged in inappropriate behavior with anyone, and minors in particular. |
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meruru
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I don't really see this as persecuting him, when it seems like the majority aren't really asking for much beyond an apology and a promise to not continue. If he gets some convention appearances canceled because of this, I see it as reasonable because his bad behavior was at conventions, and it's almost certainly not remotely his main source of income, which would be his actual voice acting gigs. I've not seen anyone suggest he should be fired from those, and there is no gossip as far as I've heard, that he's done anything wrong while voice acting.
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Zalis116
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Regarding Mignogna's autograph refusals:
Most conventions allow their guests total discretion when deciding what to sign or not to sign. While attendees may disagree with his reasoning for doing so, Mignogna is well within his rights to decline to sign that Ed x Hughes doujinshi, under the convention policies that attendees agree to abide by. Vic Migogna was at a convention I staffed a few months ago, and to the best of my knowledge, there were no reports of inappropriate or diva behavior towards attendees, staff, or anyone else at the event. In fact, his most "ornery" act was asking us to add another autograph session for him, which we were all too happy to oblige. Still, this was only one convention among many, and while I'd like to think his actions are trending in the right direction, the absence of negative incidents over one weekend doesn't diminish or invalidate the credible allegations from elsewhere. More stories and evidence can be found here, if they haven't been incorporated already: https://thetrashiestoftrash.tumblr.com/post/104827434130/vic-mignognas-misconduct-the-visual-evidence |
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Gator Gamer
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gossip - casual or unconstrained conversation or reports about other people, typically involving details that are not confirmed as being true. That's basically what all this is. Conversation with no confirmation. These people are all free to file a police report against this guy and take him to court, but they know they don't have a case because there's no evidence. Some of these people have already been proven to be fraudsters on Twitter anyway. I get people don't like the guy. He's a Christian, and that upsets a lot of the yaoi fans out there, not to mention ANN's personal vendetta against the guy dating back to the mid 2000s. But if you're going to criticize him for giving his fans hugs and stuff, you're going to have to extend that scorn to virtually every celebrity ever. You can simply Google any anime voice actor and find pictures of them hugging and kissing kids or underage fans at conventions. |
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meruru
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You don't have to file a police report to complain that some employee treated you badly. So too, you don't have to file a police report to complain you felt uncomfortable by the actions of a convention guest.
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supersqueak
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I have met him and had a photo op and autograph with him and honestly I think he is just trying to be nice and give his fans their moneys worth. I have spent quite a bit of money on stuff like this and some voice actors are super awkward and charge a lot for every little thing. Some people do spend a lot of money on travel and hotel just to see him so I can imagine he treats everyone like they are his biggest fan. I mean maybe some people don't want that sort of affection and attention but from what I saw everyone was really happy with their experience. My aunt who is a big FMA fan damn near cried after meeting him she still talks about it sometimes.
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