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Kakegurui
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Most of us appreciate ANN for their hard work. It's only a few outspoken (and bad manner) Vic fans trying to stir up things. I feel like they are trying to change the subject. Trying to stir the conversation away from Vic's sexual harassment into some kind of agenda or trying to blame the victims. I believe Jamie and the other victims who have come forward. They are very brave. |
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HeWhoSlapsAll
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What's your point? He's saying not to attack and threaten others to defend him. Makes sense. That is in no way saying "don't defend me". He's saying to show tact and maturity in doing so. |
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Gemnist
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My point is that people shouldn't confront or attack other people in order to defend Vic, if that's what they're going to do. They're only making the situation more volatile that way. Essentially, my point is what you described. |
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Mirvana
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I think it's less of a dual personality so much as just fame going to his head combined with "getting away with it" for so long (even if nothing happened above a "whoa dude, not cool, avoid doing that" level [and lets be clear, I believe things went WAY past this]). When you feel invincible and/or untouchable, you stop checking your actions' consequences because they often won't make their way back to you. It's just that now they are making it back around, and hopefully the proper solution to his behaviour is found. |
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Greed1914
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While I see your point about not destroying a career, I would think an adult should know better than to do something a grade-schooler would do. |
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LightningZangetsu27
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Can't defend this kind of behaviour if proven guilty. Will defend the dubbed characters he voiced as the artist can be separated from the person
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Greed1914
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Agreed. FMA is still my favorite anime and that won't change since it has nothing to do with his performance, but in the same way, enjoying his performances doesn't mean overlooking personal behavior. |
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Mirvana
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If anything this is what some on both sides need to hear. Vic is not his characters. Enjoying FMA or Ouran or Free! before you heard of anything he'd done does not mean that you somehow support or condone his behavior. You are not guilty by association because you were inspired or moved by a series he happened to be in. You are not defending Edward Elric, or Tamaki, or Broly by standing with him. You're defending a man with some very serious baggage tied to his name. Maybe Vic gets his shit together and never has another incident in the future. Maybe he eats a big-ole slice of humble pie and realizes even if he didn't mean something maliciously, it still crossed a line. Time will tell, but either way, a few months out of work is probably a a good start for some self-reflection, even if nothing goes beyond the Court of Public Opinion. And just to be clear even without the touchy-feely allegations, Vic very much does act like a massive prick to constaff and others in the industry. Those alone would have lost him a lot of invites/roles if he were a lesser-known actor. |
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MarshalBanana
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Bebop56210
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I wonder if funimation has/had security cams in this "lobby" and if they archived footage from whenever this would've happened. Should be easy enough to prove or disprove this that way.
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Mad_Scientist
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Not so simple. This incident is said to have happened years ago, so I imagine there's a fair chance if they did have the footage it wouldn't still be saved. And even if they did, and managed to find the footage from this day, the cameras might not have a good angle to get a clear picture of the event, there might be periods where both were off camera, and I'm pretty sure most security cameras don't have audio and wouldn't have recorded what he said. And even if by some freakish chance the camera footage did still exist, had a perfect angle, the footage was high resolution, and the camera recorded audio and managed to perfectly pick up what Vic said, and it turned out it was sexual in nature, some folks would still defend it, insist it's not that bad, speculate that maybe Jamie did something before off camera to invite it, and so forth. |
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nargun
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"Suck up, punch down" isn't a dual personality, it's just a shitty one. |
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yurigasaki
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the frenzy to move the goal posts regarding vic's behaviour is honestly really disgusting. every time another victim steps forward with an accusation, i see more people downplaying and dismissing it. like, it's wild to me the amount of people I've seen going OH WELL HE JUST PULLED HER HAIR as if having your hair yanked that hard, so close to your scalp isn't 1) incredibly painful 2) incredibly difficult to get away from, especially if the other person is stronger than you, without causing yourself a great deal more pain 3) literally classed as assault???
all i can hope is that this movement against this kind of behaviour in our community keeps up its momentum and we manage to make it a safer place for people overall. |
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Punch Drunk Marc
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Yeah because that's a quantifiable metric. |
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Takkun4343
Posts: 1499 Location: Englewood, Ohio |
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As they say, there's no shortage of idiots on the Internet. |
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