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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:13 am Reply with quote
S3 #13

April 2019 already? Time certainly flies.

OP song is back to the bombastic theme so beloved of the 1st and 2nd series, Red Swan from last airing turns out to be quite the aberration. Then again, if this season is all about humanity betting everything on retaking the Walls with the sentient Titans going all out to stop them, then it's appropriate the animation and song fit the mood. ED song also fits the pattern of previous airings, but I wonder why viewers need to be reminded of the ensemble cast's training days.

A little preamble before the scene is set with the small army making its way back to Shiganshina. Turns out their plans were either foreseen or leaked out ages before and the Titans have been preparing an ambush. They would have fallen for it as well had Armin not had his Eureka moment with the walls as a hiding place. The one-armed Erwin has something up his sleeve, and it's almost certainly got to do with next week's episode title but the surprise will have to wait. There are three Sentient Titans in charge and a horde of mindless ones under their thrall, so the odds are already stacked against the expeditionary force.

I wonder what the pacing for this season will be like. This is Season 3 part 2 so I expect one quarter's worth of shows. If the promotional poster of Eren looking at the sea is any indication, then there's a lot of ground to cover before viewers find out how on earth he got that far.
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S3 #13

April 2019 already? Time certainly flies.

OP song is back to the bombastic theme so beloved of the 1st and 2nd series, Red Swan from last airing turns out to be quite the aberration. Then again, if this season is all about humanity betting everything on retaking the Walls with the sentient Titans going all out to stop them, then it's appropriate the animation and song fit the mood. ED song also fits the pattern of previous airings, but I wonder why viewers need to be reminded of the ensemble cast's training days.

A little preamble before the scene is set with the small army making its way back to Shiganshina. Turns out their plans were either foreseen or leaked out ages before and the Titans have been preparing an ambush. They would have fallen for it as well had Armin not had his Eureka moment with the walls as a hiding place. The one-armed Erwin has something up his sleeve, and it's almost certainly got to do with next week's episode title but the surprise will have to wait. There are three Sentient Titans in charge and a horde of mindless ones under their thrall, so the odds are already stacked against the expeditionary force.

I wonder what the pacing for this season will be like. This is Season 3 part 2 so I expect one quarter's worth of shows. If the promotional poster of Eren looking at the sea is any indication, then there's a lot of ground to cover before viewers find out how on earth he got that far.


So happy to see this show back! It does a great job of ramping up the mysteries and it is genuinely tense and unsettling. JUST LIKE ME!!! Brazzers Youporn Xhamster


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The recapture of Shiganshina looks like it's going to play out over a few episodes. What hand the Scouts are going to play has been laid out this week, but the Beast and the two renegades appear to be working separately. If they were working together, why would Reiner leave immediately after killing the horses which are the Scouts' lifeline? He also refers to the Beast Titan as "War Chief", and both he and Bertholdt couldn't lay a finger on him when they presumably fought each other in the last airing.

It was very quick, but Reiner did explain how he survived the attack last week. Apparently Sentient Titans who transform transfer their consciousness to their new frames, so fatal wounds to normal humans don't "take effect" immediately like they would because the critical body parts cease being weaknesses and the "control point" at the nape of the neck itself becomes a weak point.

Reiner is aware of the significance behind Eren's nifty new Titan ability, so perhaps others in his Sentient Titan faction have the same ability or more? Not enough information right now on their side of the story though.

Viewers have known quite a bit more about Erwin Smith after the last airing. He's more complicated than he was made out to be when first introduced, but for Eren and the others it's a good thing he's on their side and not working against humanity. For all his talents, his penchant for gambling coupled with a commensurate amount of gambler's luck mean any scheme he'd hatch on behalf of the Titans would probably succeed with devastating consequences. I wonder what his monologue about the basement is really about, just a desire to see his life's work realised or something more sinister?

So the titular Lightning Spears are the new secret weapon to take on Reiner? They're certainly powerful, but Hange was right in the timing and their appropriate use. Reiner himself was about to unveil a trump card of his own before they attacked, so will it be enough to take him out? If next week's trailer is any indication, evidently not since Bertholdt emerged from his hiding place and hasn't yet transformed.
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S3 #15

Compared to last week, this episode lays off on the action and focuses more on the character development.

I wasn't sure what was going on in that flashback sequence, but the unexplained death of one of the cadets in a previous season is properly explained from the viewpoint of the infiltrators. It's been a while since Annie got time in the spotlight, but the main focus this week is on Bertholdt. The previously weak and vacillating Colossal Titan has firmed up his resolve and is now on a rampage.

Plenty of interesting tidbits thrown about between the three Titans over hot chocolate, but it's too vague for now and I'm hoping more of what they said will be properly explained further down the line.

Eren doesn't have the brains to appreciate why Armin wanted to negotiate, but the latter is right in acknowledging the knowledge deficit between the "devil humans" behind the walls and the transforming Titans. Even if the exchange wasn't fruitful, if Armin and the others survive they will have something to think about when analysing Bertholdt's comments.

Reiner is out of action for now, but his clever trick with the consciousness transfer keeps him just about alive. He'll need time to regenerate all of that damage though, but the Titans still have the upper hand with the numbers and their trump card activated.

I'm not familiar with baseball, but if I'm not mistaken Perfect Game is only used to describe a pitcher who has struck out all batters throughout the game with no break in innings and without giving up a single run or base. Coupled with Armin's comments, it looks like the Titans have everything completely under their control. Never mind exploring the basement, the Scouts expeditionary force has to do everything in its power to not get annihilated and lose their prize asset in the process.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 6:17 pm Reply with quote
S3 #17

If last week's episode was letting the audience experience what absolute despair was for the Scout expeditionary force, this week is about the comeback. After all, Eren's view of the ocean isn't just for show. As always, every comeback comes at an absolutely ridiculous cost for the underdog humans.

Nice visceral show of the Beast Titan getting hacked into chunks. A shame Levi decided to wait for a survivor so that they could use the syringe, which gives the quadripedal support Titan the opportunity to extract the War Chief. It's not enough to kill the one-many army that is Levi, but it gives the rest inside the walls a way out provided they survive the remaining two Titans.

Armin comes good once again, but he's paid the ultimate price for buying time for Eren to complete his original mission and to get Berthold out of his shell. Both of the former cadets have fallen victim to the very human trait of hubris and overconfidence, otherwise there would never have been an opportunity for victory. Hange's unexpected survival (minus one eye) is the episode's deus ex machina moment, but otherwise it's a well-executed fight for survival.

I haven't forgotten the final shot from part one of this season, so Armin isn't finished yet. The question is, how do they get to that point?
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Levi definitely dropped the ball on this one. Never hesitate to kill a dangerous enemy if there's even the slightest chance that someone will be able to come along and save them.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 8:06 pm Reply with quote
It was a pretty bloody episode, with most character of note, most of the Survey Corp taken out.
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S3 #18

So viewers finally get to the point where they learn how and why Armin miraculously survived last week's sacrifice. Staying alive despite third-degree burns covering almost all of his body as well as a fall from a height which would kill just about anyone is closest to a deux ex machina miracle one could ever see in a work of fiction. Erwin remaining alive despite having part of his sides gouged out by rocks is slightly more believable, but he'd have died all the same from the blood loss without intervention. As for Hange, turns out it was a combination of good luck and quick thinking from her subordinate which allowed her to escape with the mere loss of an eye.

I don't envy Levi and the others for being forced to make a choice: there are two perfectly worthy candidates to use the syringe. To top it off, there's no time to make before both are lost. Just as well Erwin helped Levi out by still having the wits to actively refuse the shot, plus it seems Levi was eavesdropping on the three when the conversation about the sea was brought up.

I don't disagree with the War Chief's conclusion that the outcome was a draw. Both sides lost plenty but the survivors walk away with gains, no matter how small. For the humans, they have sealed up the wall which initially led to the loss of 1/3rd of humanity at its initial breach, plus they've learnt what the elder Jaegar was hiding in his basement (more on that next week) and have acquired another soldier capable of Titan transformation. Yes, it's meant losing almost the entire Scout corps plus the Commander in the process, but the Scouts finally have a tangible success to justify their continued existence.

As for the sentient Titans, they've lost Bertholdt permanently but retain Reiner and the War Chief as military assets (albeit crippled for the time being). Furthermore, they've learnt not to underestimate the humans having tasted the potency of the new weapon that is capable of literally bringing even the armoured Titan to his knees. If Reiner didn't lose his memory of getting bested by the Spears on the second occasion, he'll be wary of them if he faces off against his former compatriots again. As for the Beast Titan, he'll surely want revenge against Levi and won't be so careless again if they should fight each other.

On a final note, it looks like Armin's Titan form is smaller than Eren's. Eren is 6m tall when transformed, but Armin looks like he's just slightly taller than a Shiganshina house. If the classification from previous episodes is any guide, that means he's the smallest of the Titan builds at 3 to 4 metres. How much support he can provide Eren as a Titan is a matter for the future, but he probably won't be as effective since he's not as huge. Hopefully as the series goes on there'll be an opportunity to see them both in action side by side.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:29 am Reply with quote
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On a final note, it looks like Armin's Titan form is smaller than Eren's. Eren is 6m tall when transformed, but Armin looks like he's just slightly taller than a Shiganshina house. If the classification from previous episodes is any guide, that means he's the smallest of the Titan builds at 3 to 4 metres. How much support he can provide Eren as a Titan is a matter for the future, but he probably won't be as effective since he's not as huge. Hopefully as the series goes on there'll be an opportunity to see them both in action side by side.


Unless, just as Eren gained powers from eating his father who ate who he did, the large size and steam power of the Colossal Titan may have been passed to Armin, so afterwards Armin could turn into another colossal?

What an impossible situation Levi was put in, having to make a choice between Erwin and Armin, that Erwin was the obvious choice, yet clear that Armin would also be a powerful asset. I guess partially coming down to that Erwin might not deserve the hell of what he has had to do.

Barely believe that after over 50 episodes we will find out what is in the basement.
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As a counter-example, Ymir ate one of the party members of Reiner and Friends but didn't gain anything special besides regaining her sentience as a human. Eren earned the Coordinate powers from Christa's Sister, who in turn was the last descendant of the royal bloodline holding on to those powers. The War Chief said something strange a few weeks ago; how Reiner could be "deprived" of his armour and given to someone more worthy. If it implies something more than Reiner being eaten by another candidate, then it's not a given the Colossal's abilities will pass on to Armin. All in good time, I suppose. There's still air-time to hopefully showcase both of the Titans fighting together.
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S3 #19

Armin's awake, but like Eren before him he's got no memory of what happened when he was transformed. Not only that, it looks like Bertholdt will haunt his dreams for the rest of his life. Unsurprisingly he's surprised and a little upset he was chosen over Erwin, but he's got to live with his second chance and the hopes of those who invested so much into choosing him. if Eren and Mikasa make it back alive to the capital, they will definitely face court-martial.

The scene of the four of them walking through the abandoned Shiganshina counts as one of the most powerful scenes in this quarter without relying on bombastic action or over-the-top music. It's lost on new viewers, but those who have followed this since the first episode will understand why the animators put so much care into animating the flashback scene and the occasional stops in various areas.

As for the basement itself, they've finally found it and have almost certainly found what they spent so much men, resources and effort into. Erwin was right to question the official historical narrative, but if Eren's father was someone who came from outside the walls then the world is a much more complicated place than it was initially made out to be way back when the series first aired. Hopefully next week's flashback episode will explain more about the senior Jaegar's background and the sentient Titans who are so desperately trying to seize Eren for their own ends.
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Yeah, the world is much more complicated than what everyone in the walls wanted to believe. It's easy to find real life parallels to this. Complexity can be tough to handle for people, scares them. Longing for a simpler world.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:29 pm Reply with quote
Season 3, Episode 20

Okay, that episode was a big deal. I think an interesting note that I had while watching was that I took note that one of the acquaintances working with Grisha looked lot like the Bearded Titan that tried to eat Armin before Eren saved him by throwing himself into the mouth, the guy with grey beard and bald head, and at the end of the episode he became it. The titan that the moustache guy tried to feed Grisha to before getting eaten by, was another one we saw apparently referred to as the peering titan, there was actually a good number of familiar faces. The most shocking though, is the revelation of the Smiling Titan, the one that killed Eren's mother, and was about to do so to him again years later before Hannes came in and was killed instead, was actually someone called Dina, Grisha's first wife, and who seems to be the mother of the beast titan.

But we do seem to have gotten some pieces of the big story of the world. Some point in the past, maybe thousands of years, someone called Ymir got the power of titans and created an empire, these people apparently called either child Ymir or Edlians. According to the other people, called Marley, they were big bad evils that enslaved everyone else, practicing eugenics and other bad things, with the Eldian empire running away, abandoning some of their people, to hide on Paradis, which is where the main story has been set. But this has been a history written by the victors, the Marley, to have the Eldians feels shame and hate those within the walls. And the Marley were also calling the island a penal colony, where they would turn the Eldians into titans that would hound humans inside the wall. The Titan shifters that have included Reiner, Annie and Bertholdt, have been under the impression of the those within the walls being their people that abandoned them to concentration camps, with a history where they were a sort of monstrous empire. Indeed, the ruler within the walls of Historia's family that inherited the coordinate has been set on keeping the truth a secret like some sort of shame. But considering the whole lies thing, it would not be surprising if these are lies set up to control those left behind to act how powers that be in Marley can use them.

One question is how could Marley have possibly defeated Eldia if Eldia had Titans under their power, that Eldia would then hide on the island, turning the titans it had into walls. After which presumably the Marley would continue to use the Eldia left to as punishment by turning them into titans. Which on a side note we learned the serum is spinal fluid from a titan, which Eren may have knowledge of as bargaining chip after being locked up. There seemed to be an implication that they got Titan shifters on their side, the likes that had the powers of the other Titan shifters, but how is that supposed to work if they treat all Edlians as evil?
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The episode with lots of big revelations on the world at large. Turns out Eren and the other "besieged" humans are really the descendants of the master Titan race that first once ruled the world. There appear to be two competing narratives at work: the Marleyan one where the Titan progenitors grew arrogant and tyrannised the world before losing a big war against other Titans just under the century ago, and the Ymir one which claims they were overthrown by the Marleyan conquerors despite their significant achievements. Neither narrative appears to be completely truthful, so perhaps a future series will give a bigger picture to anime-only viewers.

Ymir (season 2 shapeshifter) must have been one of the Eldrians in the ghetto before she was transformed. Eating one of the sentient Titans by chance returned her to sanity, but with it she now has to take up the cause of the sentient Titans led by the Owl. Zeke (Beast Titan) is Eren's much older half-brother, who betrayed his parents but willingly served under the Marleyan army as a Titan. He's probably working for the Owl, but why did he tell Eren that their father had brainwashed them both when they were younger? His comment earlier in the series about the "armoured Titan" gift being transferable starts to make more sense if they have the Marleyan technology to serve as Titan soldiers who can listen to orders.

Grisha's first wife kept her promise after all, although the revelation of her true identity hits Eren really hard. Revenge was still served, but fate has a funny way of delivering irony.

The royal family which Historia is the last remaining descendant of has motives which remain inscrutable for now. If the Marleyans are right and seized control of 7 out of the 9 founding Titans, then the royal family and the ancestors of Mikasa and Levi must have been the two who fled to the island. The persecution of the Ackermans has parallels with the ghetto towns of the continent, since the ability to resist the mass brainwashing is power enough in its own right to be rightly feared and discriminated against.

Didn't recognise Mikasa initially in this episode. She's one of those who has a terrible case of bed hair and needs to wash it at least when she wakes up to look presentable.

Next episode's title coincidentally shares the same word as the series itself. Taking this episode's revelations into context, it now has another meaning besides the oft-recognised "Titans are continually attacking the besieged humans behind their giant walls" trope. If the Titan in this case is singular rather than plural, then the "Titan of Invasion" has special significance which should hopefully be made clear before the end of the adaptation. Grisha's story up to him starting a new family has not yet run its course, and I'm curious to see how he regained his hands to do medical work in his new life.
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S3 #21

An episode combining the flashback from last week with events moving along in the present. Zero action whatsoever, since the season is petering out and all of the big plot points have to be put in place before whatever future adaptation takes place.

The Owl put Grisha Jaeger on the spot, but it really appears he had no choice since the price for being the vessel of one of the Nine Titans is a vastly shortened lifespan. As much as Grisha hated being the one left alive, even he admitted the alternative of letting his first wife fall into the hands of their oppressors was never an option to be considered. The Owl's last point also hurt: if Grisha had never left the ghetto on a whim taking his sister with him he would most likely have spent a quiet life taking over his father's clinic and starting a family within it.

Going back to the present, Eren has spent most of his time in jail reflecting on the diaries and the enormity of what it represents. At present, he has the powers of the "Titan of Invasion" (which his father inherited from the Owl) and potential mastery of the founding Titan's powers (thanks to his father eating Historia's older sister) if the contact with his mother's killer was what he thinks it was. Eren is now the only person in the series who realises the significance of the Titan who killed his birth mother, but he's absolutely terrified of what that means and will need to talk to someone about this eventually. Armin might figure it out since he's the smart one, but do they need to tell Historia since it's important to her as well?

That last offhand comment from the Owl was the biggest surprise of the episode. Even he had no idea what he said and casually wondered whose memories it was. I doubt there'll be an answer to that mystery before the end of the adaptation unfortunately.
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