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nDroae
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:51 pm
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Ah, I see. I've multiple times seen the fan community (at least in the west) believe a male creator is female, and express disappointment when corrected. Perhaps it might be profitable to cultivate that.
In that case, this may fall exactly into "well-meaning-but-tryhard media often written by men." Could still be something I'd like.
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:15 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: | What goes well with a bad title of an LN? Well, an even more worse and laughable synopsis. |
Leaving out the stupid portmanteau at the start, it's no worse a title than any other given light novel has - though admittedly that's not a terribly high bar to clear. As for the premise, it actually sounds pretty decent. The actual writing could turn out to stink of course, but the concept is promising.
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kotomikun
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:41 pm
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nDroae wrote: | But attractive action girls have been a popular staple of male-targeted otaku media for decades - makes me think of AF again:
Quote: | And the male antagonists are the type to loudly shout “girls shouldn’t be allowed in this field!” so that the audience can pat themselves on the back and say “well, I’m not that bad.” |
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Stuff like this may not be all that progressive anymore, but I try not to be overly critical of such things because... well, as you said, even the half-baked semi-feminism with a side of fanservice in Between the Sky and Sea, which wasn't exactly a hugely popular anime, somehow enraged a lot of anime-conservatives. Probably because it has the bad guys shouting the same things they post on shady subreddits. Apparently quite a few people are that bad.
It's not likely to change anyone's mind because, as seen above, slapping people in the face with "you're a sexist!" just makes them go into aggressive-defensive mode. But we probably need to keep making totally unsubtle jabs at sexism until we get to the point where it doesn't summon a downvote brigade every single time. If nothing else, they make good decoys for stories that actually do have the potential to change people's way of thinking.
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Agent355
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:48 pm
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The title sucks, but it sounds like a fun, yuri adventure comedy. We don’t have enough fun yuri adventure comedies—there have been a lot of yuri manga/anime recently, but most have been dramatic romances (Sweet Blue Flowers., Bloom into You, etc)There is definitely a market for this!
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:49 pm
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I’m guessing in the final chapter they beat the shit out of a Shield Hero caricature
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:04 pm
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SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | I’m guessing in the final chapter they beat the shit out of a Shield Hero caricature |
I sure hope so.
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gridsleep
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:13 pm
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I like the way the title Sexiled has gotten all up in everyone's grill. Woo! Books and anime with young girls throwing their curvy bits all over doesn't seem to bother anyone, but bring up sex unexpurgated and suddenly everyone is an expert on decorum. Remember when the Joker blew up the hospital? Blow up a few soldiers and civilians in a war zone and nobody blinks, but threaten to kill one little mayor and everyone goes CRAZY! Girls still aren't allowed to use sex as a weapon. Who are you all protecting from the word Sexiled? If it makes you nervous, maybe you should ask yourself why, really.
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John Hayabusa
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:28 pm
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I love the plot of this.
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CaRoss
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:30 pm
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This could definitely be a fun story. Sometimes being this open and combative can create some really fun media. It’s not often, as some authors get lost in their message and lose sight of what makes storytelling fun, but this seems like a series that has its tongue firmly in cheek in a way that mixes what could be an interesting statement with a wild adventure.
Will definitely keep an eye out to see if it’s worth adding to my light novel collection!
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Uno Gumpa
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:38 pm
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Quote: | It's time to kick ass, kiss girls, and dismantle the patriarchy! |
I'm already on board! Give me more of that progressive storytelling, please!!
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:44 pm
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gridsleep wrote: | I like the way the title Sexiled has gotten all up in everyone's grill. Woo! Books and anime with young girls throwing their curvy bits all over doesn't seem to bother anyone, but bring up sex unexpurgated and suddenly everyone is an expert on decorum. Remember when the Joker blew up the hospital? Blow up a few soldiers and civilians in a war zone and nobody blinks, but threaten to kill one little mayor and everyone goes CRAZY! Girls still aren't allowed to use sex as a weapon. Who are you all protecting from the word Sexiled? If it makes you nervous, maybe you should ask yourself why, really. |
Mate, I think you're misunderstanding why people - some of us, at least - have a problem with the word 'sexiled' in the title. It's not because it says "sex", it's because it's a made-up word whose meaning is not immediately apparent and sounds kinda stupid. Drop it and stick with "My Sexist Party Leader Kicked Me Out, So I Teamed Up With a Mythical Sorceress!", no problem. There's even "JK Haru is a Sex Worker in Another World" published in English already, which hasn't bothered anyone.
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ChrissyC
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:04 pm
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This series will rustle some jimmies...it seems it already has.
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ninjamitsuki
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:18 pm
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Sakagami Tomoyo wrote: |
SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | I’m guessing in the final chapter they beat the shit out of a Shield Hero caricature |
I sure hope so. |
I would pay good money to see this. Especially if they beat the snot out of Kirito too.
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Chrono1000
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:45 pm
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SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | I’m guessing in the final chapter they beat the shit out of a Shield Hero caricature |
I have read all of the Shield Hero light novels that have been released in English and that doesn't make a bit of sense. Naofumi goes to great lengths to help those who have been betrayed which is seen early on with Rishia and later with Kizuna the Hunting Hero. It is a pity that the anime didn't get to the 8th light novel since Kizuna is a great character and her sense of sarcasm reminded me of an otome protagonist.
ChrissyC wrote: | This series will rustle some jimmies...it seems it already has. |
The people that want lectures against masculinity will talk about it because of that description (but will probably be disappointed when the story has good male characters), a lot of guys will talk about it since they will read the speculation about whether it will be anti-male, and curious people will buy the light novel to find out what the story is really about. I think it is a smart marketing strategy and was a good way to get some free publicity.
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Sakagami Tomoyo
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:54 pm
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Chrono1000 wrote: |
SquadmemberRitsu wrote: | I’m guessing in the final chapter they beat the shit out of a Shield Hero caricature |
I have read all of the Shield Hero light novels that have been released in English and that doesn't make a bit of sense. Naofumi goes to great lengths to help those who have been betrayed which is seen early on with Rishia and later with Kizuna the Hunting Hero. It is a pity that the anime didn't get to the 8th light novel since Kizuna is a great character and her sense of sarcasm reminded me of an otome protagonist. |
Probably they, like me, are basing their view of Shield Hero - character and series - on the first episode of the anime, which was all I could stomach. Which is to say, it came off as the kind of story a bitter misogynistic incel would write to show how innocent men's entire lives are ruined by false rape accusations that evil women do just because. Nothing I've heard about the series since has convincingly suggested otherwise. Maybe I'm wrong, but I've got better things to spend my time on than watching/reading Shield Hero on the mere chance I am. Feel free to spoiler tag a brief rundown of why I'm wrong if so.
Chrono1000 wrote: | The people that want lectures against masculinity will talk about it because of that description (but will probably be disappointed when the story has good male characters) |
No-one really wants or makes lectures against masculinity. Lectures against toxic masculinity, yes, but that's a different matter. And while good male characters and masculinity will have a lot of Venn diagram overlap, they're not synonymous.
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