Forum - View topicNEWS: Vic Mignogna's Civil Case Against Funimation, Voice Actress Monica Rial, Ron Toye Dismissed
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n1nn1nn1n
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Nope. The GFM apparently has already been drained a lot to pay for legal fees, and that was before he has to pay sanctions and damages to the defendants. Paying Jamie Machi's fees alone would cost most of the GFM. Adding in everyone else, Vic's probably on the hook for nearly a million. Vic doesn't need to go to jail to face consequences. His lawyers are driving him into bankruptcy and the lack of jobs and dwindling con appearances will do the rest. If his lawyers (and rabid fanbase) push him into appeals, that'll be even more money lost. So ironically, his worst enemy are the people supposed to be on 'his' side. |
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Lynx Raven Raide
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This is one thing I am wondering about. Beyond his current bookings I do wonder if he will get many more in the future. He admitted in his deposition to some very questionable actions, and a lot in the English-speaking world, where he would be likely to be booked, would be second-guessing whether to book him in the future. Kameha Con is a good example for second-guessing, as if they look like they may lose guests cons might refrain from considering him. Also, on top of that, given that it has been admitted in court that they are only handshake agreements, his current bookings may decide to pull out too since it would be easier compared to written contracts. I could see him going to Anime Matsuri and others with questionable reputations themselves. Some smaller ones may bring him in for notoriety, but they may end up regretting it too. It may be interesting to see what happens there |
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gilgameshi
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He is still booked for Matsuri. You can look at his profile page on ANN and see how many cons have dropped him just this year. Something was floating around showing all the crossed-out appearances, anyway. I don’t understand how stans can convince themselves that four appearances after 10+ cancellations is “more appearances at cons” though. Especially after screech posted that one picture where you could see the empty room in the reflection of his aviators... |
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Charred Knight
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You sure moved those goalpost. The "fan" was some right wing grifter who started the GFM to make money off of other right wingers, and anime fans who didn't want to believe that Edward Elric was played by some creep. Also Ty Beard and Nick Rekieta has probably taken nearly all of the money the GFM has, so those legal fees are mostly coming out of Vic's pocket. Sure Anime Matsuri will invite Vic back, but that's because Anime Matsuri has a piss poor reputation themselves. The rest of the cons Vic gets invited to are mostly small cons who have a couple hundred people attending at the most. Like Hawaiicon was just some small con where Vic greeted a few fans in an empty room. Ultimately Vic has done more damage to himself than Kick Vic could have dreamed of. Vic admitted to doing several creepy things in deposition, Vic admitted that he doesnt pay attention to his own court case, or the GFM making him come off as an idiot. As mentioned because he hire incompetent attorneys his case got thrown out before it even got to trial so his on the hook for everyone's cost, and will get sanctioned. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Last warning. Let's stop with the conspiracy theories.
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Ali07
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I don't know if I missed a big part of this, but was the main aim of this to get him landed in the slammer? From what I saw, most mentioned they wanted him to change his ways, and recognise what he did, because a lot of the accusations are instances where statutes of limitation has come and gone.
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Aura Ichadora
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DerekL1963
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Nobody was ever talking about jail... That's just the latest stan backpedaling/goal post moving. "He's not in jail so he's obviously not guilty of anything". |
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Lynx Raven Raide
Posts: 412 Location: Central Coast, AU |
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Side note, and if going off topic could a mod remove it: I am starting to get surprised about the statutes of limitations being in place. I am an Aussie, and we removed the statutes of limitations on sexual assault quite a while ago, hence why Cardinal George Pell is able to sit in prison right now. I do understand over there it is a state by state thing, but it does make me wonder the situation of the Vic case if they were removed. |
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Dessa
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Nah, doesn't mean they're telling the truth. Because of the way the laws are worded, they didn't have to be false, necessarily, just not malicious and such. |
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Zerreth
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This is true about defamation as far as I can see based on what I found from this page regarding texas defamation, however there is the added portion regarding public figures that adds another condition about it having to involve "actual malice." And in instances of actual malice that says the following:
Admittedly, this is not quoted directly from legal documents but other sites which provide examples of "actual malice" all correspond with the key point being that what the defendant has said or published was presented understanding that information was knowingly false, which we often refer to as lying. Also please refer to Vic's deposition where he has admitted being very handsy and has touched others without permission to a degree that could be misconstrued in a suit where he's suing the defendants for saying they were (at the very least) touched without consent and felt uncomfortable. |
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Dessa
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Oh, I believe the allegations. I've met the man in person, and he's a jackass, and he verbally assaulted a close friend of mine. I would love for him to get blacklisted from the industry.
I was just pointing out that the Defamation counts thrown out doesn't mean that what was said was true, just that it wasn't defamation. |
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Ali07
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Yes, you're right. Shouldn't have said a lot. I'd say there's probably more that fall under "might not be prosecutable under the law as sexual harassment", which is likely why I have been under the impression this was more for him to change than for him to end up in jail. I'm actually unsure if someone has come forward with something that would be taken to court, in a criminal trial.
See, this is what I'm actually unsure on. While I believe the accusations, and a lot of that has to do with what Vic said in his deposition, I didn't think this case was about whether or not they were telling the truth. While I can understand why some will see it that way, but I've been under the impression that this case was for Vic's team to prove they were lying, and that this was all done in order to damage him. So, to me, the result of this case was that Vic's team couldn't prove they lied. I don't see the result as validating what they said as truth. |
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Lynx Raven Raide
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To the rest, thank you for clarifying things to me. Still leaning towards the "telling the truth" side, mainly because of his deposition, but yeah, without that it wouldn't seem as conclusive. |
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SyranoGravely
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Eleven pages already, huh?
Any way to turn reading back through into a drinking game without giving oneself alcohol poisoning? |
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