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EP. REVIEW: Fate/Grand Order Absolute Demonic Front: Babylonia

What I mean is that I find a lot of characters in FGO garbage and the most direct cause of that is the business model that forces prioritizing selling points over characterization as part of a narrative. People roll for those characters not after they've read the story and found them entertaining and well written, but because their tits (or abs) are showing. Not because they have an interesting backstory or internal world, but because they're a loli and call 'you' onii-chan.
I am not trying to make a sharp contrast with previous works, lord knows they have had a lot of wasted characters, but FGO makes the problem worse.

Now compare that to Mash's constant wedgie or whatever the heck you'd call Ushiwakamaru's getup, and I think it's fair to say there's been a shift in creative priorities.
Or heck, just put the two Rins side by side

What I mean is that I find a lot of characters in FGO garbage and the most direct cause of that is the business model that forces prioritizing selling points over characterization as part of a narrative.

People roll for those characters not after they've read the story and found them entertaining and well written, but because their tits (or abs) are showing. Not because they have an interesting backstory or internal world, but because they're a loli and call 'you' onii-chan.
I am not trying to make a sharp contrast with previous works, lord knows they have had a lot of wasted characters, but FGO makes the problem worse.

You don't understand - some people just enjoy the overall fgo content and this is why they're ready to threw money for a new character.

1) Grimdark story, I presume. Do you read Babylonia or Camelot?

2) Bruh, Nasu already confirmed that it's in a play test state. It would be released in 2020 (it's Tsuki 20th anniversary after all).

By comparison, yes, FGO puts much more effort into writing their stories to the point where currently I have to get through godawful amounts of fluff to move on with the story, but that's not what the success of the business model is based on.

Both you and zrnzle enjoy the overall fgo content, yet you're f2p. I mean you could throw in 5 dollars, it wouldn't ruin you.
the other thing is that if you spend enough time in fgo forums you see that most talk about rolling happens way before those people would have had time to finish the stories those characters take part in.

Yes, that's a lot of dead people. That doesn't answer my question in my slightest.

And I'm sure that you were just as certain it would release in a year when that CG of Arcueid came out in TM Ace. And when the 10th Anniversary hit. And when the 15th Anniversary hit. It's been over a decade since the remake was announced. It's dead. Kinoko 'I'm done with Fate' Nasu's words are empty. There is no remake until it sits on Akihabara shelves for sale.

use of crummy CGI for most of the animation

3) Yeah, because they already trust devs - they won't release a powercreep servant, those servants would have a good animations and new kits to play with. It's a single player game, the unit's power is mostly meaningless - you would be able to play just fine even with weak SSR servants.

It is. It's popular because of a huge lore that TM built thanks to FGO popularity and thier talents; stories they've wrote; characters that they've created.

Why, thank you. This together with your example with Anastasia lends more credence to my argument that people roll for servants not because of their treatment in the story of FGO but based on checklist characteristics (released in previews) and connection to some external fetish quality - owning Napoleon, or USS Iowa or M1 Garand.


That could explain why it's popular, not why many people are willing to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars on it.

I asked you why people are willing to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on a mobile game even one they like.

FilthyCasual wrote:

Eddy564 wrote: Although, why did you state you wouldn’t recommend the Fate GO game? Because it's an exploitative cesspit where each and every narrative aspect is fine-tuned to enable mindless consumption. Anyways pretty anime, if shallow.

I suppose that’s somewhat valid if you wanted to be absolutely cynical about it. But when you break down a lot of games you’ll come to the same conclusion. That is precisely why I don’t think about the entertainment medium from that point of view.

lossthief wrote:

Now compare that to Mash's constant wedgie or whatever the heck you'd call Ushiwakamaru's getup, and I think it's fair to say there's been a shift in creative priorities. Or heck, just put the two Rins side by side

Yeah, left one is an average magus girl and right one is a goddess of love and war. Ancient mesopotamians even depicted her naked, so nothing wrong with her lewd character design. Would be rather stupid to see her in modern dress or even in sumerian common outfit.

The Fate franchise is terrible and I'm honestly sick of seeing ANN handwaving their own criticisms to ultimately come to the conclusion that yes, the massively popular series that pays them a lot in ad revenue and one which they could never go against the public opinion of, is indeed great despite these criticisms and you should all continue to support it. Especially when oftentimes their reviewers are pretty critical of pandering, fanservice, mishandling of female characters. None of that matters if Fate brings in the big bucks. I hope this isn't considered "impolite" per Teh Rules but I probably won't mind if it gets removed as long as a mod sees it.