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MarshalBanana
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You know you are allowed to like Blood of Zeus even if it is not an Anime. there is no law prohibiting you.Netflix only call it that as a marketing tool. Though oddly the character design looks more like it came from a 2D Dreamworks film, than the usual cliché design they use. |
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DavetheUsher
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I mean, it doesn't really say much about simulcasting if their only 2 examples are a movie and an American TV series. Neither of those have anything to do with simulcast anime.
Likewise, "up 100%" could very well mean they now have 2 viewers now instead of 1. A hyperbolic example, of course, but companies and PR releases use weasel words rather than actual numbers for a reason. |
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db999
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Honestly this whole debate on if we want to classify these Netflix shows as “Anime” is just like the sub vs dub debate from back in the day. It’s a relatively new thing that shows being created in the US with a certain style of animation is being referred to as anime by the marketing departments of various steaming sites. These shows like Castlevania and Blood of Zeus aren’t new, but they haven’t really been marketed in this way for a long time. I think just like the sub vs dub debate eventually in 20-30 years the debate will eventually die down and this will really just be a fringe debate.
Personally, I don’t care where a show or a movie was made. If it looks like anime and feels like anime I’m going to call it an anime regardless of whether or not it’s made in Japan. I personally think it’s just really reductive and another form of gatekeeping. What does it matter if American or International countries outside of Japan are calling shows anime or not? Does it really affect or offend people so much that other people have different definitions of what they consider anime? If Netflix wants to name all of these animated shows they’re making Anime it’s fine by me. The only thing that should matter is this one question. Is the show good or not? And personally, if Castlevania and Blood of Zeus are anything to go by these Netflix Anime are in good hands. Sure they’re not for everyone and I would like to see them do more genre’s but this is the early days for this and eventually we probably will start to see Netflix do anime with more genre’s. |
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fantaselion
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Your putting allot of words in peoples mouths, they're not "offended" by this, its just that Netflix is reporting that "anime" is "up over 100%" and so people are like "but those numbers are basing off of things that are and aren't "technically" anime, thus its kinda like "is anime really doing well on netflix?" and then we get this debate. |
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scowler
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The pandemic has probably caused Netflix's viewership of a wide variety of genres and niche content to increase by 100%.
That being said, we can see from Netflix's anime-related announcements over the last 18 months that they are plowing serious $$$ into licensing anime. I don't see them losing steam on this any time soon. |
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mdo7
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Scowler, It's not only anime that is getting more Netflix's viewership in the US. Live-action Foreign-language TV shows/dramas on Netflix amongst US audiences have also seen a big increase too according to a Deadline Hollywood article. and I'll quote the article:
So it's not only anime. I guess people are branching out beyond Hollywood. Nice to see people watching anime and non-English foreign TV dramas. |
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Shay Guy
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Everyone's a prescriptivist.
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Mm-17
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Guy it's simple, the word "anime" became synonymous to explicit, gory, deep and serious animation aimed for adults thanks to shows like Akira, Ghost in The Shell etc, so Netflix are using it to differentiate their shows from other family friendly cartoons.
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Blanchimont
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Japan has not had monopoly on adult animated stuff, history of adult American works are aplenty from since Fritz the Cat in the 70s, nor is there a lack of TV series(Family Guy etc)... |
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Yttrbio
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Yes, we know the argument, but it didn't "become synonymous," Netflix wants to make it synonymous. To just pull 4 ongoing reviews from this site: Is Love Live anime? How about TONIKAWA? Kuma Kuma Kuma Bear? Sleepy Princess in the Demon Castle? Netflix says no. Is that not the kind of racist exclusionary gatekeeping that those of us who see value in a word having a definition are being accused of?
It's a word, and words have meanings, because they're being used to communicate. For those of us interested in the broad diversity coming from the Japanese animation industry, we're losing a word. That means that when we tell people "yes, we like anime," Netflix has changed what we're communicating. It's like the 90s all over again, where it will be perceived as being into blood and gore and edgy stuff. So yeah, I guess I'm a bit grumpy that Netflix says "now you have to describe your hobby as 'animation from Japan'" and everyone seems to shrug and take their side, as if wanting words to be defined in some way is stupid to care about for normal people, but totally fine and unassailable when done by a corporation for marketing purposes. |
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Errinundra
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There's money to be made from that word, so Netflix aims to appropriate it.
Oddly enough, to a Japanese speaker, "anime" is a general term for animation regardless of country of origin. |
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MarshalBanana
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Blanchimont
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That's a good take on this. It seems there's 3 different definitions of anime floating around, the original Japanese meaning comprising of all animation both domestic and foreign, the common western definition of animation originating from Japan, and the third which Netflix seems to use here, 'explicit, gory, deep and serious animation'. Outside of the vhs-period of anime when the miniscule selection of imports we actually got skewed the perception of the stuff, the third definition has always been shadowed by the former two. A lot more on the point would be for Netflix to simply say 'animation' is on the rise, but for marketing reasons they're trying to appropriate the word 'anime' towards their preferred definition of it, which at best can only be used to describe a certain subset of anime... |
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Alan45
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Please remember, that for the purposes of ANN
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Apparently for the purposes of Netflix the definition is different. |
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CatSword
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I know approximately no one who has watched Blood of Zeus and I don't care to meet them. Give me stats on actual anime, please. How many people watched Beastars? Great Pretender?
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