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EP. REVIEW: Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? III

GhostD wrote:

Makes you think how ridiculous the Black Dragon has to be to have wiped Zeus and Hera out

Makes you also wonder about the hero in Ancient Times who was able to take its eye out, doesn't it?

DanMemo has implied that Zeus and Hera Familias might not have been at 100% strength against Black Dragon due to losses taken defeating Behemoth and Leviathan. (One event described the Level 7s who finished both off as only doing so at a cost, and another event referred to even high-level adventurers dying to Behemoth's poison despite Resistance.)

I know the reason is level numbers. And that there must be somebody stronger somewhere.
It's just that when you see that play out it gets very ludicrous with a tiny bunch of guys easily overpowering an entire town's worth if people.
Even most RPGs aren't that absolute with levelz.

To clarify the levels problem: levels actually barely give an idea of what an adventurer is capable of. It was probably left out of the anime but the LN stated that the bare requirement to level up is having at least one stat be rank D (ranks go in ascending order of I to A, and then S, SS and SSS). So two characters with the same level can have drastically different stats hence why high level characters are so OP

It's like how in some RPGs you don't have to change classes immediately you reach the requirements. So while some players will class change immediately other players will max out their current class first before changing, so naturally, the later player will be stronger than the former despite having the same class.

But honestly I disliked this system since the very first time it was shown. Even if they got creative with the bits about the blessing and invisible tatoo, in the end it's an adventure fantasy copypasting a role playing game system which is in turn a necessary (for a game) abstraction that represents the skills of characters in adventure fantasies.
It's always immersion-breaking and lacks elegance.

There are theories circulating online that the hero who took out the dragon's eye was spoiler[Ais' dad Albert]. Vol 15's last short story was a real teaser and it leads to the start of vol 16.

One of the defining points of the DanMachi setting is that, when it comes to adventurers, quality matters more than quantity.

The bit about how two people at the same level can have significantly different strengths doesn't specifically come up until the volume of Sword Oratoria past what the anime adapted, though it is implied in the first main series; remember how startled Loki Familia's top people were to learn that Bell's stats were "all S"? That's practically unheard-of, as maxing out stats before leveling up (which is not even close to necessary) is not commonly done for practical reasons, but the effect can be cumulative.
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Key wrote:

One of the defining points of the DanMachi setting is that, when it comes to adventurers, quality matters more than quantity. The bit about how two people at the same level can have significantly different strengths doesn't specifically come up until the volume of Sword Oratoria past what the anime adapted, though it is implied in the first main series; remember how startled Loki Familia's top people were to learn that Bell's stats were "all S"? That's practically unheard-of, as maxing out stats before leveling up (which is not even close to necessary) is not commonly done for practical reasons, but the effect can be cumulative. .

Basic stats(abilities): strength, endurance, dexterity, agility, and magic.
Abilities are ranked by a letter,with I being the lowest rank and S being the highest(or used to be) and by a number ranging from 0 to 999( or used to be).
According to the Danmachi universe,it is normally impossible to go past S rank and past 999.

When a adventurer levels their basic abilities reset to 10,with the older abilities ranks retained as an invisible base.

Which brings us to Bell. Whom has seen his basic abilities soar past "S" rank,reaching "SS" and the new rank of "SSS' at every level he's reached.

Bellspoiler[,before episode 11 wraps up,]at level 3 •
•Strength: SS1001
•Endurance: SS1100
•Dexterity: S989
•Agility: SSS1291
•Magic: A877

And at level 4 Bell's abilities will reset to A class as a base.

Yeah, I accidentally ran across that rumor a while ago, and after just finishing reading volume 15, I'm absolutely convinced that's the direction Omori is going. What's been revealed about her background makes a lot more sense if that's true. The big catch to that theory is, of course, spoiler[the thousand-year time gap], but a cryptic comment made by a character in the Astraea Familia event in DanMemo leads me to believe that spoiler[a young Ais may have been in some kind of stasis in the Dungeon during most of that time].

Ep 12

Well, the big fight was a tad underwhelming mainly cos they really downplayed the cheers of the people, the fight's intensity, and because it was shortened. I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point but I really wish they made this 13 eps instead of 12. Loved its animation though. Heres hoping for season 4. I realize after watching this and re-reading vol 11 that Hermes did something very similar to what spoiler[Erebus] did but on a much smaller scale.

GhostD wrote:

Ep 12 Well, the big fight was a tad underwhelming mainly cos they really downplayed the cheers of the people, the fight's intensity, and because it was shortened. I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point but I really wish they made this 13 eps instead of 12. Loved its animation though. Heres hoping for season 4. I realize after watching this and re-reading vol 11 that Hermes did something very similar to what spoiler[Erebus] did but on a much smaller scale.

13 episodes would have been a better fit but I think overall episode 12 gave me everything I wanted out of the fight with Asterius. The crowd support building behind Bell was a slight miss, but overall, they did a much better job with this material than I was expecting. Really brought the A game. I was cheering when the animation took that gigantic step up.

GhostD wrote:

Ep 12 Well, the big fight was a tad underwhelming mainly cos they really downplayed the cheers of the people, the fight's intensity, and because it was shortened. I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point but I really wish they made this 13 eps instead of 12. Loved its animation though. Heres hoping for season 4. I realize after watching this and re-reading vol 11 that Hermes did something very similar to what spoiler[Erebus] did but on a much smaller scale.

13 episodes would have been a better fit but I think overall episode 12 gave me everything I wanted out of the fight with Asterius. The crowd support building behind Bell was a slight miss, but overall, they did a much better job with this material than I was expecting. Really brought the A game. I was cheering when the animation took that gigantic step up.

Agreed. The Bell/Asterius fight in the novel is one of the most (if not the most) overwritten fight scene in the entire franchise - and for this franchise, that's saying something. This was a quite reasonable condensing of it, even if I would also have liked to see a little more crowd reaction.