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TarsTarkas
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Rebellion ended on a massive cliff hanger. It is not anywhere close to being a conclusion. If Sauron won at the end of the Lord of the Rings, and Gandalf and the Hobbits were imprisoned in Mordor, we all would be waiting for the next installment where things turn around. At the end of the movie, spoiler[ Homura is sinking into madness, her world is splitting at the seams, and our heroes have been brainwashed to forget their past, and to relive their lives when they were still in school. All agency forcibly removed.] The movie ended on a cliffhanger.
The first act and second act of Rebellion was great. In fact the second act showed the strength of Homura. It was a rising cresendo for Homura. So when the third act ends, it is a major slap in the face to everything that happened in the second act. I have never seen Homura as some weak character, who would crush her friends and take away their freedom and agency. |
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Villain-chan
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For anyone who didn't like the ending of Rebellion, please click the spoiler as this will clear up why that ending happened and may like me, change how u feel about the movie.
spoiler[When i first saw Rebellion, and saw the ending i was mad, thought the movie was awful and betrayed Homura's character. However, I went looking online for information on why she did that at the end. I came across posts and a video online in two dif places and upon reading them and watching the video, my perspective matched theirs and I loved the movie. The answer of why Homura did what she did is due to Madoka and Homura's wish. Basically, Homura's wish consisted of two parts, to meet Madoka again and redo their meeting, that part came true but the latter part, to be strong enough to protect Madoka never ever came true, and still hasn't to this day imo. Now as ya'll know, she accepted Madoka's wish, however, the 2nd part of what made her reject Madoka's wish and "rebel" against it, was becus of something Madoka herself said to Homura while her memories were altered. This was said right b4 Homura undid her twintails and went back to being Coolmura as many call her. What Madoka said in that scene (I believe it was a field of flowers) to Homura made her realize that she was wrong, that she failed to protect Madoka and she further believed she failed Madoka becus Madoka had said something that indicated she didn't want to make the wish she made. This is the entire reason why Homura did what she did, the ENTIRE REASON for that seemingly out of no where plot twist. Yes that was foreshadowing and easily missed. Homura isn't weak, she's still trying, by herself, to protect Madoka. Someone might point out then what about the line "It appears someday even u'll become my enemy" T that i say, to which part of Kaname Madoka was she referring too? The normal Madoka whose not a magical girl? or to the Law of Cycles whom was split off from Madoka but still trying to connect back to her and become one? Yes Madoka was split in two in that moment, she even warned Homura it was happening. And yes, Homura was misguided in doing what she did, becus it isn't fair to do that when Madoka didn't have her memories of the wish, but at the same time, those were still Madoka's words and u know Homura clings to Madoka and her words.] |
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everydaygamer
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I always felt that the ending of the original series was as perfect as it could have been, striking just the right balance of tragic and hopeful. The problem with Rebellion is that it spoils all that.
I don't dislike Rebellion and I don't even dislike the direction it took towards the end but it basically ends on a massive cliffhanger and without any proper resolution, it's hard to look back on it fondly. |
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TarsTarkas
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We all agree to disagree about Homura.
But let's expand on what Homura did. Let's say a bunch of Americans were kidnapped, and brainwashed into forgetting everything about their lives and memories, but only leaving their earliest memories until highschool. That is what Homura did. If this happened in real life everyone would be aghast and demanding those responsible go to jail. If this was done to your significant other or spouse, and they forgot about you, would you consider this as a suitable conclusion to their story. Right now our Magical Girls are the Stepford Wives of Pleasantville. Is this really the ending for the main plotline that you want? Let's not forget also, that Sayaka did not go into dreamville willingly. As the ending shown, Homura's world is unstable, and Homura is mad/unstable, whatever euphemism you want to use. The only good thing about the third and final act of the movie Rebellion is that the Incubators are getting their just desserts. |
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AkumaChef
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My only gripe with Rebellion is that it ended on a cliffhanger. I felt that the "dramatic left field turn" was shocking, but I also felt that it fit into the series lore perfectly. spoiler[The concept of karmic balance was a major and ever-present theme in the TV series, but it also happens to end in a rather un-balanced fashion. Madoka becomes Madokami. Well, when you have balance and you have a god one expects there to be a devil as well. And that's Homucifer.]
I would certainly love to see a direct sequel to Rebellion with Urobuchi and Sinbo at the helm. |
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Villain-chan
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Juno016
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A lot of theories and subjective views here on Homura. Ultimately, I'm just going to take a page from Urobuchi's perspective:
Madoka's and Homura's character and motivations clash. Ultimately, their wishes contradict each other. That moment Homura says, "you might become my enemy someday", it doesn't matter which "Madoka" she's talking to. I, too, loved Rebellion. Same masterful writing as the series, but in a different direction. Like many of you, I don't mind that the ending was a cliffhanger to the plot. The actual story of the film, its central themes and characterization, concluded with the cliffhanger revelation. But I also think it necessitates a continuation. Urobuchi said he was done with Madoka, but with its current frozen state (Magia Record doesn't really count...), I don't think I'd be surprised if he hopped back on at some point. No one continued his story since Rebellion, so he'd still have full control over its direction. |
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Redbeard 101
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I removed your last post Villain-chan. People can have different opinions than your own. Just because you feel a certain way does not automatically make it "fact" or the truth. You have gone on with this topic enough at this point . You're just soapboxing at this point, and more importantly being very rude to other users who's opinions differ from your own. You even started posting in here all upset insulting ANN, when the part you had a problem with came directly from Funimation. I suggest you agree to disagree at this point.
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#HayamiLover
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Well, that's just my personal opinion, but the more the franchise gets mainstream, the less I continue to feel the spirit of that old, original Madoka. It reminds me of the hype around the new seasons of ReZero. Again, subjectively, it's just that it is more and more beginning to be perceived as a purely commercial project, and not original creative content. |
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Alanherf
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I also agree that it is a purely commercial project, I hate such projects. I don't like it as I think it loses from the company uniqueness and not only. When I noticed that my clothing business website is outdated I hired a company to update it but I made it clear to not change almost everything, but only some features which will create a user-friendly interface. And I also don't permit any ads on my website because I think it spoils the image of the site and also the brand.
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