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Kuzu
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Just to elaborate on this; remember when Eren said that a Titan Shifter who doesn't pass down their power after the 13 year period, it will be inherited by the first child born of royal blood. Zeke is in his last year. As pointed out; it was either turn Historia into a Titan and have her eat Zeke (and thereby, cut her lifespan to 13 years as well) or get her pregnant and let that child inherit it. Now if the farmer romance story IS a load of shit, and that child really is Eren's, then I don't think Eren has any intent on going with Zeke's plan at all. |
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Yuvelir
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I thought it was a random newborn Eldian. |
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Covnam
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Either way, if they also get hit with the 13 year limit, that's a pretty terrible thing to intentionally do to a new born |
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Zefram
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It is, especially since, unless that child gets severely hurt, he/she will never find out that he/she is a titan. The child will live and suddenly at 13 years old die. Plus the randomness factor means nobody could predict which Eldian child becomes a titan - it is a Paradis Eldian or Marley Eldian? |
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Yuvelir
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There's a lot we don't know about this system actually.
It's already weird that there is a time limit at all considering pure titans just seem to be able to live on forever, but following from there: -We haven't seen or known about any titan holder dying because of the time limit -We haven't seen or known about a baby being born with titan powers -Let alone a baby born with titan powers dyting at 13 I guess the normal time limit must be true otherwise Eren would already know it to be false and he has no interest in perpetuating the Fritz&Tybur conspiracy, but I have my reservations about the rest of the information and its source. |
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SilvaStreamer
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Thanks that explains it. |
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jr240483
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thats been my suspicion when i saw it in the manga and grew even further in vol 32! considering that eren does have the founder's powers to alter memories, i would not put it past him to do THIS! especially when it comes to whose the father of historia's baby!. i highly doubt that the father really is that farmer boy as she claimed! |
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shakir0247
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Man, getting to this point in the anime years after reading it in the manga has made me realize how much I hate the pregnancy plot point in this otherwise very interesting direction the story takes.
The fact that Historia's actions and motivations have to remain hidden from the audience for now, and for a while to come, essentially ends up feeling like she's been abruptly written out of the story. Only her bloodline and her uterus remain relevant to the plot while her character and agency are basically gone (which is extra fucked-up given what her character arc was all about). It's just damn shame since she was one of my favorite characters in the manga. (I tried to avoid any direct manga spoilers, but if this still seems too spoiler-y than feel free to mark it as such.) |
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Yuvelir
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Well, that's also what happened to her other half. Reiner and Bartoldo were either deluded fools if they thought Ymir would get any kind of good treatment or outright malicious using and manipulating her. |
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shakir0247
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Kinda? While Ymir's offscreen death did feel like a waste, her arc in the last season we saw her in did reach a conclusion. Meanwhile Historia is still very much alive and is technically important to the plot, but only as a plot device. Even though she's presumably going through some difficult times and has conflicting feelings regarding current events, we don't get to see any of that. |
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Pipoko
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The moment on the train in this episode is probably one of my favourite moments in the story, especially in light of a specific recent manga chapter.
Everything except Historia's plot thread ranges from alright to great, while the plot thread involving her character is pretty much my least favourite element of this entire story, in the manga and anime. I think the point is that what she's going through is horrible, but it sort of contradicts its point by being executed the way it is. I think the aim is to make the point its making also on a meta level and it's also intentionally written as a mystery but as we see this episode, the story itself cares as little as it possibly can for her situation. I think you could explore her even just a little bit more without giving away the mystery. It's really jarring considering every other character, male or female doesn't seem to be given this treatment. Eren is a mystery, but we still see a bunch of his thoughts. I think her character will eventually be resolved as best as it can be considering this setup for her, but the setup is at best okay social commentary, at worst completely contradictory to the story's themes and her character arc about deciding to live for herself. |
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Agent355
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Historia’s plotline sucks enough without rape as a factor. I think Eren is probably her baby’s father, but I hope that there was strategic reasoning behind the conception that she agreed to or, better yet, actually planned together with him. It’s possible that there is even romantic attachment between them, there have been scenes pointing to that. There’s also plenty of reasons to keep their relationship and/or plan secret, as Eren isn’t trusted by the higher ups right now (was he ever?) and they insisted on vetting Historia’s baby daddy.
But, yeah, this situation is awful for Historia and basically writes her out of the story. We could also critique separating the lesbian couple (and, if you ask me, best ship) of the story, killing one partner off and impregnating the other...I’ve definitely seen fans who have made that point. It sucks all the way around. |
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shakir0247
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Yeh, it's probably my biggest frustration with the narrative as it is now, cos it just feels like a whole lot of wasted potential. Why build up a character so much and put her in an interesting position if you're not gonna explore it at all? I remember being very excited to see where the "Historia becomes queen" plot thread would lead, but the result turned out to just be very sad and disappointing.
I think normally I wouldn't care as much about something like this, but I guess I really expected better from this story in particular.
Yeh.... that's a pretty big yikes as well, although I think of that as more just collateral damage from other questionable writing decisions. |
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Pipoko
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It really is strange considering I like pretty much literally everything else about the story.
I think all of the other main female characters are great in this arc, too. Love basically everything done with Gabi, Annie (however small the flashback stuff was, it was still substantial), Pieck, Mikasa and Hange (I think Hange has been confirmed to have whatever gender the reader/watcher wants them to have, I choose her to be female). Obviously Sasha died, but she also had her character arc and ended up having more depth than just being a comic relief character, too. AoT has never done anything like this, either, so it is a pretty odd anomaly. |
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getchman
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Something I've been wondering about a for a couple weeks now. What happened to that 5th member of Pieck's Panzer Unit? we only see 4 of them die
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