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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:05 pm
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DuskyPredator wrote: | I would say at that I am pretty confident in calling this show pretty feminist.. |
Episode 4 has Kawai pointing out that the hierarchy does not take into account the needs of female officers regarding bio-breaks.
We are not told the gender of Dog-sama, but presumably a police dog is similar to a bear as to where it goes in the woods (and that has more than one meaning in Episode 4).
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:03 pm
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I'm not sure how "feminist" it is to show a female character crying because she's thirsty and has to pee. I did chuckle when the other pair showed up just in time to hear Afro tell Kawai to go tinkle. Really enjoying the humour of this show.
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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:15 pm
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Blood- wrote: | I'm not sure how "feminist" it is to show a female character crying because she's thirsty and has to pee. I did chuckle when the other pair showed up just in time to hear Afro tell Kawai to go tinkle. Really enjoying the humour of this show. |
I though Kawai was crying from mashing her face into the ground after tripping?
The character with the curly black hair is Detective Seiji Minamoto. Afro is the mangaka for Yuru CampΔ/Heya CampΔ.
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ACxS
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:17 am
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Really? Just let Dog-sama loose, and its escorts are supposed to run along to wherever it's headed? I thought he would be on a leash and the escorts follow it as much as possible. I guess I take the show's word for it.
Not a show with a lot of social commentary this time. Feels more like a cool-off episode, which is perfectly fine. A day's work as a police officer needn't always be dramatic. But I do agree with Dusky that the show is pretty feminist (of course, this is a good thing). Sure, Kawai is portrayed as this not-strong female protagonist but that's not really the point. The fact that she calls out how women have to be dehydrated and hold their pee during a search mission is an indicator to show women's plight in the force. Fuji appreciates how the fire brigade knows this ("must be tough for you"), and Yamada wonders why and is clueless about it. Makes you wonder if men generally understand what women have to go through as a police officer. That kind of comment is something you don't see being mentioned often.
I did find it a little funny how they had to close their eyes to the broken safe and discarded appliances. Makes you wonder how much the police have to tolerate just to keep things going (and in the bigger scheme of things, let society function).
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:22 am
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ACxS wrote: | I did find it a little funny how they had to close their eyes to the broken safe and discarded appliances. Makes you wonder how much the police have to tolerate just to keep things going (and in the bigger scheme of things, let society function). |
I thought that there was some element that she saw the greater crime implication of a broken abandoned safe in the wild, but he just saw some illegally dumped furniture.
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ACxS
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Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:13 am
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DuskyPredator wrote: |
I thought that there was some element that she saw the greater crime implication of a broken abandoned safe in the wild, but he just saw some illegally dumped furniture. |
I think the punchline is, both of them saw something questionable but turned the blind eye because it's not their mission to address them at that point. If they did, it would hinder their progress in finding the missing old man. Same goes for the truck thing; it's not like the two are going to write them a ticket while in a search mission.
I think it's an ironic example of how law enforcers don't always enforce the law. Mostly for the better, but sometimes it can be ambiguous with no straightforward answer.
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:47 pm
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ACxS wrote: | 4:
Really? Just let Dog-sama loose, and its escorts are supposed to run along to wherever it's headed? I thought he would be on a leash and the escorts follow it as much as possible. I guess I take the show's word for it.
Not a show with a lot of social commentary this time. Feels more like a cool-off episode, which is perfectly fine. A day's work as a police officer needn't always be dramatic. But I do agree with Dusky that the show is pretty feminist (of course, this is a good thing). Sure, Kawai is portrayed as this not-strong female protagonist but that's not really the point. The fact that she calls out how women have to be dehydrated and hold their pee during a search mission is an indicator to show women's plight in the force. Fuji appreciates how the fire brigade knows this ("must be tough for you"), and Yamada wonders why and is clueless about it. Makes you wonder if men generally understand what women have to go through as a police officer. That kind of comment is something you don't see being mentioned often.
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The greater implication of the fire fighter's comment was that there are no women in their group and as such, cops weren't being nice to women because they were treating them like male officers.
So which is it? Equality without exception or special treatment? Take the problems of urination/dehydration... drink some water and urinate. I feel the bigger issue was she wasn't saying anything and that could be more of a senior/junior thing.
Not a lot of social commentary this time? I think it depends because it sticks out to me in big red letters; look at to the response to the most basic solution "Male officer tries to entice female officer into public urination; Male officer gets mock arrested because humor."
It's pee, we're all adults here. Either go or don't go, there is no cry.
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ACxS
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:11 am
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The first part of the episode is just one of those lulzy skits. The second part however, I wish I can see more of them where it contains some sort of social commentary. The perp spewing about how the girl deserves it is a classic example of victim blaming, which is much more common than what most people want to admit. And if you think that only guys behave this way, think again: there are a lot of women who also engage in victim blaming, for various reasons.
Of course, he got his comeuppance eventually but it's a reminder of one unpleasant and perpetual societal problem. More so in the case of Japan where chikan cases are still rampant.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:31 am
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She was a middle school girl too, right? I can't imagine a scenario where if an adult did something like that they would not end up labelled as a sex offender. Unless there is some common defence that helps the creeps get away with it.
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ACxS
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:48 am
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There should be some kind of sex offender registration system in Japan, although I'm not sure how it works.
But now that I think about it, the case was also an example of how the rich and privileged can get away with a slap on the wrist, which definitely isn't applicable only to Japan. Imagine if the guy wasn't some high-powered executive, but a regular joe.
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Animegomaniac
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:43 am
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Nobody had a problem with the comeuppance being homosexual in nature? Rubbing the perp's nose in his actions, fine, having the perp sing because his masculinity was called into question... I don't disagree with the notion of entitled masculinity, I call into question its societal implications of its "opposite" having an immediate effect.
The guy broke down in front of three female officers because he had to grind into another guy, that was easy. Would I have replaced Minamoto with officer Fuji?
I thought that was the point? I thought one glare from her would have gotten him to rescind but no, it had to be gay because of the culture. Good thing he wasn't overcompensating for his own feelings then?
The scenario itself was problematic but it only got into a different set of problems trying to resolve itself. I liked the first half, that had.... hazing....
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:22 pm
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I had conflicting thoughts, along the lines of I don't know if I would have felt better if he had talked one of the female officers into being groped in the re-enactment. As well as whether it was meant to come across as gross to the audience for a guy touching a guy, or what the reaction from the women was meant to be. In the end it looked like the groper looks down on women, so his problem was that that he was being looked down on by women in positions of power, not even being able to enjoy the act itself.
I don't know if it was meant to come across as homophobic, since the male officer stayed stoic.
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Piglet the Grate
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Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 6:40 pm
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Animegomaniac wrote: |
The guy broke down in front of three female officers because he had to grind into another guy, that was easy. Would I have replaced Minamoto with officer Fuji?
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Do not think that would work, since 99.99% of heterosexual men would find the same physical treatment from Sgt. Fuji to be a reward and not a punishment.
N.b. This is not a moral judgment, but rather a belief based on observed behavior.
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ACxS
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:01 pm
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Part 1:
Heheheh.
The mixer made me chuckle for a few reasons. I've been to a few back in the day, and the show reminded me just how thin the walls are in some of the bars. So much that you have to raise your voice just to be heard, and with everyone else doing so for the same reason, the whole bar becomes one big ruckus. That, and the whole "inflating your job" bit. I imagine it's probably easy to inflate if you're working in the police force; if you're working in some ordinary office, I'm pretty sure there's only so much you can brag about.
But I have to empathize with police officers; their job entails them to be ready for any call-ups so it must be rough on their social life. Kawai is a clear example of it: she can't even help herself with coming up with some lies on what she does for leisure (fact: lying takes a lot of effort especially if you're doing it for the long run).
Part 2:
Not that much for me to comment, but it really sucks to be working in the line that is always under scrutiny by the public eye and the politicians (I mean, they kinda go hand-in-hand). I guess it applies a little differently depending on the department. But man, it must be debilitating for a emergency-prone department like Criminal Affairs to do their job while having to follow protocol and keep up a good image.
Too real.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:42 am
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Clearly some romantic tension between Sgt. Fuji and Minomoto, not that either would ever admit that even under pain of death. The humour of this show continues to work like gangbusters for me. Perfect "hump day" material.
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