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INTEREST: Black Lagoon, Hellsing Creators Discuss Illegal Uploads

I feel insulted by this statement, I borrow Bleach manga from the library all the time, does that make me a moocher? No, because someone still paid for that copy, so the author still received money from a sale of his book. If this statement were true, there would be a lot of anime and manga moochers who borrow from their friends, the library Nettflix, etc. I also review Bleach and earn money from reviews, which I use to buy Bleach anime, am I a moocher fan of Bleach or any other manga I borrow from the library, NO.

I think those comments that the mangaka made were tasteless and crude. The family survivors of pancreatic cancer patients should give them a little talk about the impact of death on them and the course of the cancer on the affected relative so they should know what they are wishing on copyright infringers.

I know it's their right to speak out but sometimes counting to ten before typing is better.

I know it's their right to speak out but sometimes counting to ten before typing is better.

Even though the topic of the article is about several authors wishing horrible diseases on ONE person. The topic of discussion has still turned into the same generic finger wagging session at fansubbers,scanalators,pirates,illegal streams, and mangacows present in every other thread.

Really, I just find it all so bizarre why there's so much hate directed at these people. Don't get me wrong, I understand why it's so upsetting to many, but everyone here seems so vindictive about it. I get that they did a stupid thing, but what a reaction everyone has to it.

I've invested thousands of dollars on anime VHS tapes, DVDs, Laserdiscs, and merchandise; into properties that I was otherwise completely unaware of prior to downloading them. Does that justify it? Absolutely not. I simply want to illustrate my position more clearly so you understand better where I stand before I go off trying to make any attempt at a point.

I've been living in Japan for the last year and a half now with my wife and anything we watch or read is obtained completely legally. I've been "clean", as you might call it, for years now. BUT, I would argue that I am contributing less to the industry now than I ever was previously. When I do read manga, it's usually at a Book-Off somewhere along with thousands of other people all over the country. If I want to sample a series, I go to the local Tsutaya and rent a DVD for 100 yen. Why not rent it on the Playstation Network at home and contribute more directly to the companies involved? It's 400 yen for a single episode and I'm cheap. Simple explanation, right? Point being, that there are plenty of other (legal) ways to subvert the industry.

Youtube, naturally. I inadvertently stumbled onto it when I was looking for something else and after watching just a bit, I was hooked. The episode I watched had been uploaded illegally, I found, and was removed soon after.

I bought all of Hirano's Hellsing that was available back when I was an exchange student in 2003. Funny that had it not been for a friend showing me a fansub back before I left (I bought all of Geneon's original DVD release as well shortly after), I would have known nothing about it.

I think those comments that the mangaka made were tasteless and crude. The family survivors of pancreatic cancer patients should give them a little talk about the impact of death on them and the course of the cancer on the affected relative so they should know what they are wishing on copyright infringers.

The topic of discussion has still turned into the same generic finger wagging session at fansubbers,scanalators,pirates,illegal streams, and mangacows present in every other thread.

So basically you're trying to say is that the people are wrong for liking an unpopular series? Let alone the fact that most publishers don't even announce it's cancellation and just stop publishing it, same thing happen to Zatch Bell, and yet you want to condemn people from using scanlations by fans who are just picking up the slack that the publisher failed to do?

I think those comments that the mangaka made were tasteless and crude.

"Telling people to die for daring to steal their works."

Serious Business.

Well, I will say that Hiroe and Hirano at least had FUN with their criticism. Also, it was totally badass that Hiroe did a special illustration in the gallery of Blazblue: Continuum Shift

Reading through this i find some posters comments rather amusing, I mean Illegal is illegal & wrong is wrong, certain users can try to justify it anyway they want

Yeah, and Sarah Silvermann can't joke about the Holocaust.

Xanas wrote:

Charred Knight wrote: I am pretty sure the guy who just uploaded all of Black Lagoon doesn't buy Black Lagoon. The people who actually buy things and pirate, only pirate the new stuff that isn't available where they live. Your statement is based on what evidence? I can tell you that this isn't true at all for me personally, so there is at least one anecdote that what you say isn't true. I've also ran some polls on pirate forums in the past, and it wasn't true for many of those who responded there either.

So, you're saying you're one of these "pirateers"? How convenient.

Agila, if you believe the statement's I make are false it's better to say it's false than to say I'm lying, which is totally different in meaning and implies that you have a full understanding of my position and that you know exactly what I know.

It seems like you are still interpreting what I'm saying to mean all fansubbers buy what they previously watch, etc. I'm not saying that. Quite the contrary, I told you that many people do not buy everything they previously watched.

I also acknowledge that many people don't buy anything they watch (though I say most of those in this category don't have money to do so as I don't believe most are in this category because they are callous haters, and if they were then you already can't win them over to your side anyway).